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Will do!

Yep. This type of posts will always disregard that suspicious fact. For some reason they'll ignore Calyx, ignore all the other smartphones available and go straight for really bad advice from a cybersec perspective. Very sus. 🧐

Calyx is absolutely dogshit for privacy. GrapheneOS or nothing. There is no second best.

Sure thing, officer. Only criminals want privacy, devices built by Google are perfectly safe.

I pray that your life does not depend on privacy 🙏 #prayforbrito #freebrito

I've lived long enough to see someone say that my privacy is safeguarded through a Google device. 🤔

Journalists working in hostile environments, politicians under surveillance, dissidents and personnel working under cover ain’t using CalyxOS, Librem or Blackphone. This is the reality and doesn’t factor in ‘feelings’ or ‘gut instincts’ about Google products. Imagine being able to buy the cure for cancer from Walmart but refusing because Walmart also sells food products that can cause cancer.

Curious that you mention that point, because those are exactly the people who'll quickly be targeted when using a compromised phone. You even know the other better options and yet dismiss them like its nothing. Those who care for those in risk would advice them to avoid any suspicious tools or hardware. Are you a foreign agent?

No shit Sherlock. That’s why they should not use second rate second tier privacy preserving mobile phone device’s and OS’s. I’ll repeat it again for those with ears that are painted on: @GrapheneOS running on a Pixel device gives you FAR more privacy and security than a CalyxOS device a Blackphone or a Librem product. Do you know why I dismiss them and why anyone else whose life literally depends on privacy and security also dismisses them? Because they don’t come close to the level of real time security and privacy that @GrapheneOS provides. Facts don’t care about your feelings towards Google 🫠

Well, now it is obvious you are a gov bot. Sorry, we will keep pointing out to journalists that using a suspicious android distribution on a compromissed hardware is bad for them, just as much as you'll be repeating otherwise to fool them. At least you're getting paid, so it ain't that bad.

You haven’t zapped me once for telling the truth. Why not anon? Are you going to pay? Are you a believer in value for value?

You're telling the truth, albeit only half of it. That also counts as fooling others.

Show us your cards. What phone and what OS are you advising a journalist to use in an incredibly hostile environment where 1 security mistake will end in certain death?

Nice try, FBI.

Just as I thought. No opinion, no back bone, no balls. Just more noise in an already noisy world. Disappointing but not unexpected. Feel free to jump back into the fray once you have something to say 🫡

Yeah, good try. You get a few cents for each reply or just a daily rate? Today is sunday, you should really ask for better work conditions to your employer.

Don’t jump back into the fray unless you are willing to man up and show your cards. Your ears and eyes really are painted on aren’t they!?

Just curious in what way you think this is? They've decentralised their network and server infrastructure, but it's still controlled by them. Most of their services are basically walled gardens.

Oh .. long story .. the entire premise of google is to break the most impenetrable forts of centralization - take for example - Internet Explorer with Chrome ( which btw is largely open source ) - iOS with Android ( again largely open) - Mac And Windows - chromeOS ( which is essentially Linux) - google FI to fight complete autonomy of AT&T and Verizon - wearOS to counter watchOS .. practically free for the partners like Android - wayMo to counter Tesla - TPUs to counter nVidia GPUs Google is makes centralized power into a binary choice and then opens up the floodgate for smaller players .. without google earth would be ..well still flat :-) Besides the entire AI is based on transformers which is open source of google .. Not even counting endless backend technologies.. like node ..

We can't - for now. Considering everything a nophone is a great solution, second best is a graphene.

He won't. No person serious about privacy would ever install an android distribution that only runs on Google-owned hardware. It's like putting a heavy lock on your frontdoor while the backdoor is wide open for everyone.

Unfortunately true. So waiting for Graphene to create their own OEM phone or use "Nophones" as often as possible. In the meanwhile it's still an upgrade for most people. Starting from acknwoledging that they want more control and privacy. That alone will translate into new market opportunities.

That doesn't really make it any better. You should never trust closed ecosystems where both the hardware and OS are provided by the same group. I would more quickly trust some cheap chinese android that nobody cares enough to plant hardware backdoors than using a device from a group that is knows they are sus since years and now I should trust they haven't poisoned their hardware too.

Totally wrong. The reason for using pixels is because it is the only Android device that meets their strict security specifications. Graphene is now working with an OEM to get an alternative device with the same level of hardware security

Complete and utter bullshit. Even flat earthers come up with more creative excuses for refusing to ear what cybersec experts have been telling you guys. Just admit that you do this for the money.

Opportunity there. Google is a major problem.

What are those apps? I'm curious.

There are PLENTY of options which don't require Play Services. You're not a google crackhead, you don't NEED their alleged "convenience."

You can run sandboxed Google play on GrapheneOS and your apps should work.

All the banking apps (and I have a lot of them), Tesla app, and quite some more that either rely on Play Services, push notifications or check if they are really installed from Play Store.

Unfortunately not, there are no options for those apps I rely on (personally and for business). View quoted note →

I know, my comment was concerning the "de-googled". Of course a lot better than the stock #Android OS with all the #Google apps and services, but no way for me to go full de-googled without Play Services, unfortunately.

My apologies for the hostility and ignorace, I sometimes forget professionals rely on propietary software like the ones you listed. Difference between a pro and a hobbyist, eh?

#Furiphone #Flx1 is a good option. #Linuxphones #MobileLinux

Whats your go to guide for graphene?

do you run graphene os now?

Not yet, it’s a journey. Need to buy the phone first .

look into the Librem 5

I know a bit about them and other companies with open-source hardware projects, but I confess I haven't delved too deeply into their proposal. I'd like to see them here at Nostr; I think it would be an excellent niche for them to explore 👍

The others ROMs are not as secure as GOS. You have to use a pixel, all other hardware is not up to snuff.... @GrapheneOS talk about all of this alot.

Because they are basically sponsored to promoted that suspicious option. It is not everybody, there are plenty of people criticizing the situation like me and yourself, but just observe this suspicious flood of bots that refuse admitting even the most obvious of cybersecurity facts.

That is utter bullshit. You know this. I know you know this. You know that I know you know this. And still you insist in fooling other again. How many shekels do you get for promoting that suspicious project?

I'm not sure what u r talking about? That's the conclusion I have come to so far. From what I have read and while using GOS it seams to make the most sense. Im open to hearing what I may have missed?