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Nostr suffers terribly by leadership all having gigantic accounts, so that they don't know how dull and lonely and frustrating Nostr can be for the remaining 99,996% of us, down here in the steerage class. Twitter didn't get so big by being 50 Million People Wait for Jack To Post Something

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Nostr suffers terribly by leadership all having gigantic accounts, so that they don't know how dull and lonely and frustrating Nostr can be for the remaining 99,996% of us, down here in the steerage class. Twitter didn't get so big by being 50 Million People Wait for Jack To Post Something
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if nostr is not used for social media, I can live with that. what matters to me is things like NWC, runstr, shopstr (probably in some better form), conduit .market (if it takes off), routstr, catalax .network and many other I forgot to mention. users don't have to know about nostr
↩ replying to npub1sces...q7fu
None of the OtherStuff has enough users to keep the nodes up (yet). I'm hoping to get institutional customers that only need to maintain their own node-network, but the social feed is the strongest pan-network use case. We need that use case hopping to keep Internostr exchange up, so that the Intranostr npubs can use the external nodes to hop from one Intranostr to another, smoothly and without being conspicuous, and to occasionally join the Internostr conversations. Otherwise, you end up disjointed islands and the value proposition melts. Communication networks should be noisy and busy.
How to get followers and engagement on nostr: Make sure you post stuff jack, Derek etc want to repost. I know it's similar on other social media, but at least there there's vast communities of 'taste makers' respected within certain fields/interests. People who have specific/niche interests do stand out on nostr, but they tend to not last long cos there's not a community for them. People do like their posts and appreciate them but they are not getting the conversations they are actually looking for. The yo-yo guy (I think he's gone) for example, but there have been many. Yeah he got appreciated, he stood out. (He wasn't even saying the price of bitcoin when it reached ATHs!! It's a pretty low bar lol). But he probably left for a forum or for Reddit or there's probably dozens of yo-yo people/community bubbles on twitter, or insta etc
This is something I am just realising having started this ALT recently. My previous npub had over 650 followers built up over a couple years and I would have fairly good engagement and decent conversations. Not always, but enough to keep me engaged, after all I'm only a pleb looking for mild levels of engagement, not some InfLuEnCooR. But now on this new npub it feels like shouting into the void again πŸ˜‚ it is possible to build up a tribe and engage with each other on nostr but it's a slogg of months to years unless you're following the nostr zeitgeist. If we truely want to #grownostr we need to make a more concious effort to interact with each other's posts with comments likes and zaps, but most importantly by comments! Even some dumb throw away comment is better than the void πŸ˜‚
↩ replying to Diyana
I don’t think I’ve ever been pro-WoT, maybe WoT curious at times. Perhaps at the beginning when I did not understand it properly. When you really think about the long-term effects of WoT you realize how detrimental it is to the growth of Nostr. Until the death of WoT, or at least the current aberration that is implemented by most clients and relays, the OGs who managed to amass a big following just need to sit on their asses while the new user will struggle to get any attention. The new guy’s only hope to become relevant is if one of those OGs looks hard enough and follows them. The OGs did not have a WoT filter to pass through early on, and had that been the case, most of them wouldn’t even be here. I probably wouldn’t be here. WoT kills spam but it also kills the host.
↩ replying to Diyana
Sure! People only see posts from those they follow, or from people their follows follow, it may or may not get any deeper than that. Unless you are well-connected, this creates a bubble for yourself. If not enough people follow you, or if those that follow you don’t have many followers, then your posts stay within your little circle. Your followers can help you by reposting your content, reacting, or replying to it, for it to be viewed by those outside your bubble but still part of theirs. You can increase your visibility by tagging your post with popular relevant tags. Let me know if that helps!
↩ replying to npub1m4ny...c2jl
Community relays actually alleviate the worst effects of WoT, tho. I think you're wrong about that. They at least give everyone a chance to be quickly seen and prove themselves. If you get thrown out of a community, you can go someplace else, or start your own relay, and your newfound frens can follow you. There's no lag. With WoT, nobody ever knows you came, you wallow in obscurity for quite some time, and you then leave without making a single sound that anyone heard.
↩ replying to CameriπŸ¦β€πŸ”₯
I'm not an OG, but I arrived right before the WoT stuff started and everyone stopped looking at global, so I've had to really scrape follows together. Npub by npub. That's why I sit in steerage, even though I regularly trend. It's a paradox that confuses everyone. Why is she always so frustrated and angry, when we all see her stuff and respond? You can see my stuff and respond because I've worked on this from sunup to sundown, every damn day, for two years. It's been absolutely brutal and if I weren't trying to market projects and promote my frens, I would have long since thrown in the towel. This has been way too hard. It doesn't make sense that it's such a struggle to post such popular content, but I simply missed the OG jump and am permanently screwed.
As an experiment I recommend all the Devs made a new account, on primal. Tick all of the interests when making it. That's what the average person sees when they get here. Someone needs to have a talk with the people at @primal They don't even have gardening as an interest when you onboard, they push the same group of limited interest people onto everyone. And according to almost everyone primal is the best for onboarding.. Come on now this ain't right
I think the principles in play here are that genuine communication is a two way street. Follow all the people you like, get the perfect feed, but when you post something and no one sees it, no one even knows it exists, that is the hollow fiat communication. Empty user experiences are hard to onboard with.
I like the "free market" feel of Nostr. Like moving into a new town where nobody knows me. Laying low at first, not going on stage anywhere. Observing what's around, what needs are already covered and where there are gaps. Checking out profiles of people with comments I appreciate. Keeping the permanency in mind, gradually putting out some of my own, building trust. It would be alarming to instantly have thousands of followers! The global feeds aren't a great place to start. The follow packs are handy, and those can grow. #grownostr
Hilarious how the engagement on this post kind of refutes your whole theory. Say things worth responding, reacting and paying for, THAT is how nostr is modelled. Twitter has everyone extended on credit then at a moment's notice, they get throttled and banned. Just like how drug dealers sucker new customers.
Opinions are key. Up to you to see things for yourself In my view: there is a proof-of-work required in Nostr usage. You have to go and find what you need, follow, interact, zap, and then filter what you don’t. Challenge: spend a week doing triple the amount of zaps you’ve done befor. Then see how it feels…?
I just looked through my follow list. Interestingly, I have some of the biggest accounts all the way down to some of the smallest, with no big gaps between sets of numbers. Just observing and interacting with ones I appreciate as I go. I thought I'd see an obvious dividing line between follow counts, but not really.
A decent enough solution **_would be_** hashtags, and new users are suggested hasgtags instead of npubs - would be, but isn't, because people abuse hashtags and then people unfollow the hashtags. I suggest limiting the number of hashtags that can be added to a note, or relayed as a relay policy - 3 tags seems like a good maximum. That way, interest groups break off into their own silos, instead of the current psychology of an implied demand for conformity.