People who say this like its a bad thing don't understand how to bootstrap networks.
100,000 users on a network talking about 100,000 different topics dies in a matter of days, because there's literally nobody to talk to about *your* topic and no cohesion at all in the network. 100,000 users in one community is a solid network.
Look at every successful network in history, it *always* starts with an atomic, self sustaining network around a single community or purpose.
- Amazon. Only sold books.
- Uber, Lyft, and pretty much any rideshare service. All got a critical mass in ONE city before expanding.
- Airbnb. Started exclusively and got success in San Francisco.
- Napster. Started with almost exclusively music
- Facebook. Exclusively Harvard students
- Twitch.tv started as just one guy streaming his life and then targeted gamers.
- Pinterest, focused entirely on "mom-bloggers"
This list goes on and on. What he is describing is literally *the only way alternative networks are ever successful.* So contrary to the idea that this is bad, it's actually the only reason Nostr is still here. Because you can find most of the best bitcoiners, tons of great holistic lifestyle content, and cypherpunks wanting to build awesome shit.
That's actually a fantastic start and we should LEAN INTO THIS MORE, not steer away from it. We do so at our own detriment if we just complain about and fail to embrace the community we DO have.
- Tinder. Literally grew itself locally one frat and sorority party at a time.
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Huzzah!
If you can't find your tribe in 100 000 people, it isn't the network.
Oh I'm sure your tribe is in there somewhere. Where? Don't ask me!
Useful for more than just social media
Nostr isn't limited to "Twitter clones." It's already being used to build: chat apps, blogs and news platforms, Bitcoin wallets, identity systems ... and much more.
We are still early!
Someone should create a feed of people talking about other things and add it to the onboarding flow π‘
it is "bad" for people like me who want to talk about other things, but because I share most of the core beliefs I just keep posting here anyway.
The premise is unassailable though β zero chance it survives without massive overlap in the middle of the Venn diagram. And I muted Pledditor on Twitter a long time ago because his takes were engagement-bait noise anyway.
nostr is a big forum where people can interact with people,
block other people,
pay other people,
design UI's for people
and most importantly its way much cheaper to build here with people than going else where and deal with importing people
Gm good people
#Bitcoin
Nailed it Guy.
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I intentionally selected a filter bubble that would make me a better man.
I don't remember the last time a 'normie' inspired me to improve my life.
Oh but they do. Every time I talk to one
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Nostr is like a Bitcoin meetup π
Start with the specific group. Then branch out. I use to only talk about Bitcoin here.
Right on target with this take π―
Couldn't agree more.
You are a brilliant rhetorician. Excellent explanation!
Nostr and network effects.
People who say this like its a bad thing don't understand how to bootstrap networks.
100,000 users on a network talking about 100,000 different topics dies in a matter of days, because there's literally nobody to talk to about *your* topic and no cohesion at all in the network. 100,000 users in one community is a solid network.
Look at every successful network in history, it *always* starts with an atomic, self sustaining network around a single community or purpose.
- Amazon. Only sold books.
- Uber, Lyft, and pretty much any rideshare service. All got a critical mass in ONE city before expanding.
- Airbnb. Started exclusively and got success in San Francisco.
- Napster. Started with almost exclusively music
- Facebook. Exclusively Harvard students
- Twitch.tv started as just one guy streaming his life and then targeted gamers.
- Pinterest, focused entirely on "mom-bloggers"
This list goes on and on. What he is describing is literally *the only way alternative networks are ever successful.* So contrary to the idea that this is bad, it's actually the only reason Nostr is still here. Because you can find most of the best bitcoiners, tons of great holistic lifestyle content, and cypherpunks wanting to build awesome shit.
That's actually a fantastic start and we should LEAN INTO THIS MORE, not steer away from it. We do so at our own detriment if we just complain about and fail to embrace the community we DO have.
- Tinder. Literally grew itself locally one frat and sorority party at a time.
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Exactly, Nostr feels like one of those forums from the 2000s. The often had just a couple hundred users but were full of live and engaging discussions because they had a homogenous culture
I joined Nostr to learn the finer points about BTC.
I joined Nostr to build a cyber security skill set .
I joined Nostr because the community endorses my attitude that I'm on the right track.
Knowledge, skills and attitude helps me to be a better Bitcoiner. To be competent.
Nostr ticks all these boxes.
Setup your Lightning β‘οΈ
What many people don't realize is that there is already enough Traction on #Nostr already, that its gonna stick.
Ignore them, Like I've always said, "Don't be late to the party" βοΈ π
Fantastic post.
Well said. That twit post reads like someone trying to undermine something better for humanity tbh...
This is a remarkable insight and well worth noting.
Powerful networks start niche, and then build from there.
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Based.
I'm out here doing my thing. Sure, I share the bitcoin link, but I'm here because it is decentralized, and I have proven they redacted science and they cannot do that here.
This is the better system. We need decentralized systems for almost everything. If they can redact science and hide something as significant as what I've proven, decentralized everything is necessary for survival. The lack of it is literally killing us.
I agree, but what something is used for in the long term versus how it is bootstrapped are simply different problems. Amazon being an obvious example. They got their atomic network with books, but today itβs pretty clear they donβt sell only books
People who say this weren't around for early bitcoin twitter.
look. HODL uses the term βheuristicβ a lot. so hereβs one. music. fucking music. by some act of god, i had the brains to squeak by on a finance degree at an βeliteβ institution but it was punk rock i identified with. not the green day you think. or fall out boy. or whatever tf ppl define as punk now. i was in basements running through crowds to scream lyrics while sweating alongside singers that wanted to change how the world ran. and some of these bands eventually caught the eye of industry bigwigs. i became one. youβve heard of these bands. they now play stadiums. a crowd of purists who liked the first self made EP - or LP, or indie label demo, or whatever - wonβt fill a stadium. something changes in the evolution of a band. the frontman for a street punk band says βthe cure had a record called Pornography and it changed my life.β and fans like me say βoh shit, i thought that was just me.β so their next record has a twist that reflects an influence from The Cure. it attracts more fans. different fans. and this happens album after album. the ethos of that frontman does not change. nor does that of the band. i assure you. at heart, they are the same band of punk kids that didnβt sit right with the with a bigger audience, an evolved sound, and the moral compass that stood when they were 16 years old and kids like me were screaming βfuck authorityβ by their side. donβt like the crowd? thatβs on you, not the band. and certainly not btc. btc is that band.
Totally agreed and been saying that the whole time. The masses are the sheeple, no need or desire for them here. There can be a place for them on some future clients though.
Same vibe as "Bitcoin failed because it's too volatile to ever function as a currency, and only dumb bitcoin bros think otherwise"