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Zapstore. Then just hop in there and find what you need. I use brave browser. Aurora store would be good, probably ideally on a didferent profike or space. Breezy weather. I wish i could recommend pipe pipe but everytime i open it its broken. Url check (you can use it to auto change x links to xcancel.
Stress that you have full control over all apps and their permissions. Example keyboard gets no network access. See below for some recommendations. Some require a bit of getting used to the UIs but id never go back to apple. My recs, find what works for you Coming from iOS to Graphene most people want the below -Navigation Open Street Maps or HereWeGo -App Store = Aurora (for normie apps) Zapstore Obtainium Fdroid -Messenger Molly or Signal if FOSS isnt your thing -Email K9 or Thunderbird FairEmail -Social Media Just use Nostr -Notes Logseq Obsidian Simple Notes -Calendar Fossify Calendar -Podcasts/YT/media Many YT frontends (newpipe, bravenewpipe) AntennaPod Harmony Music VLC -News Feeder - copy paste or search rss feeds. Control your news -Airdrop = LocalSend -2FA aegis authenticator -Adobe Reader = MuPDF -Passwprd Manager KeePassDX Hope this helped. Happy to help. #graphene #privacy #foss
Being able to silo apps using different profiles is a very useful feature. Zapstore and Obtanium Secure messaging Email Calendar Maps Weather Notes Music/podcasts Password manager/totp VPN If you’ve got good apps for those you can transition feeling pretty grounded and add other things over time.
Hi Ben, I recently set up GrapheneOS on a google pixel pro9 by myself, still learning and hoping i now have a full privacy phone (sandboxed applications) Google play store however is still required for all banking related apps like: ledger live, Revolut, Envoy, Muun, Wallet of Satoshi, also Bitwarden app is a requirement but not sure if it is a β€œsafe” option using a paswoord manager on GrapheneOS This is one profile, another profile still uses google apps like whatsapp, youtube, waze, translate, telegram, signal… Next i still want to check out what would be best is a sim or esim for one or both profiles, at the moment i use wifi connections for the different profiles (North VPN-Tunnelbear) Looking forward to your tutorial on GrapheneOS
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From my own experience it seems like all profiles share the same SIM cards and internet connections. I was hoping to have one profile using an e-SIM and another using wifi and VPN but it looks like you have one main profile where you can choose those settings, then all other profiles are like "sub-profiles" that share the same settings by default and can't be changed. If that makes sense... Let me know if you manage to overcome this?!
Made a burner just to say: The dual/multile accounts and duress pins are very unique and ought to be discussed. De-googling full stop can be done but has trade off for convenience. This is not for the normie who doesn't have any desire to tinker. Not having Google map is the biggest thing I notice. The other alternatives aren't comparable IMO. Then there's the whole "just use Google play store" Obtanium and Zapstore are a bit cumbersome but with a little effort... Usable. Just encouraging people to tinker is the key here. You can always still use your old device for the Google shit if really needed.
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They release a lot of updates with new features and bugs, and they are still fixing bugs from there v4 release and some from V3, current is 4.3.2 with 4.4 very near If you can report the bugs either via the internal app report or the bug room they will fix them very quickly here is a bug room link pear://keet/yfoios17dgbdhoyizg1er4zdsay9admk4oo3meh4j1tawqx4fw5scmysf93per7subcttbhrjuoiriey7b65sh5yrdmhpape7j7f4d7s51kfur9wwwrkwb8ms31n9ro1h467iqq4orw945do88oxztmpfoznnye
All great suggestions, and most I also use. Also use Obsidian for note taking, Organic Maps for mapping. I actually chose NOT to run google services (or whats the point), so this is a great map replacement, all maps are downloaded so usable offline with just GPS (great for no cell signal). Collabora Office for docs, Feeder for RSS, KurobaEX for 8kun (lol). Biggest downside not having Google Play Services so far is that Pheonix Wallet requires it for notifications to the lightning channel, so had to abandon that.
It's hard to get by without Google play for many things like maps and banking. One option is to make a second profile and then enable sandboxed Google play services on the second profile. So you can have a schizo / crypto profile, and then a hardened normie profile and switch between them. Essential apps include: Mullvad VPN FUTO keyboard FUTO Grayjay Signal Zapstore for keeping apps updated
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Looks great on the first look but the disclaimer from them says: ALL INFORMATION PROVIDED ON THE SITE IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE. COMPANY CANNOT ENSURE THAT ANY FILES OR OTHER DATA YOU DOWNLOAD FROM THE SITE WILL BE FREE OF VIRUSES OR CONTAMINATION OR DESTRUCTIVE FEATURES. And privacy policy We may collect data in a form that does not, on its own, permit direct association with any specific individual. We may collect information such as language, time-zone, search requests and routing requests, so we can improve the user experience and our services. I would expect something better considering how they market themselves. Do you know more about them?
It takes at least 1-2 days to set everything up correctly so that everything is convenient, from the keyboard to Syncthing, KeePassDX, and everything else. There are many tutorials online that only hype because GrapheneOS "fUr krIminaLS". But to do everything correctly, you need to record a tutorial lasting several hours. If you're interested in what FOSS tools I use, send me a message. I don't want to post a list here without knowing for sure that you'll read it.
Since a lot things were suggested already, here some more niche apps I use: * PDF Doc Scan, scan docs into PDFs (Zapstore) * ConvertIt, convert various media formats (Zapstore) * Read You, lean & beautiful feed reader with optional sync (Zapstore) * Breeze Weather, customizable weather app, fast, supports many locations & data sources (Zapstore) * Chance, great *chan reader if you’re into that, best I found so far (Obtainium) * Linkahest, my own app to share links to X/Reddit/YT without compromising the recipient’s privacy (Zapstore) * Hacki/Harmonic/Glider, HackerNews readers, if you’re into that (probably all Obtainium) * CoMaps, fork of Organic Maps, OpenStreetMaps app (Zapstore) * Nekogram, forked & extended Telegram client, fully OSS (Zapstore) * Futo keyboard, closest to GBoard as it gets IMHO, supports local transformers/machine learning for autocomplete/swiping (Zapstore)
I don't have the same phone use case as others and vice-versa, so I can't tell people what app is a "must-have", but the transition is easy if you set up sandboxed Google profiles (which aren't actually attached to a Google account, so the name alone can be confusing). Basically you're creating walled-in setup for each type of profile, wherein the apps you set up in Profile A can't see what you have going on with Profile B, and the same goes for each app, you can even set storage scopes and limit what each app can see or do on your phone. For example, my nostr apps can't see my image gallery, only the ones I downloaded (and then I empty it after posting to nostr). I have a profile for Banking and Maps, one for Uber, and one I keep important notes on. Then my main profile has my browser, games, and Primal/Amethyst. I like using HereWeGo and Open Street Maps, and one tip I have for SwiftKey keyboard addicts is to disable network permissions so it's not connected to anything when you type. Oh, and I know a LOT of people hate Pixel's design (so do I) I use LawnChair (home screen/app drawer launcher) lets me style everything in conjunction with Nova Launcher and hide things I don't use) View quoted note β†’
Sipnetic + data-only SIM (pay with cash) + virtual number from brax.me ---> for all voice calls on the PSTN (although if you and recipient both have sipnetic, I think you can call extension to extension for strong privacy, off the PSTN. Signal for calls to as many contacts also using as possible (until perhaps White Noise has that capability).
* A good browser - Fennec, Brave, Vandium, etc. Something that works with PWAs while blocking ads and minimizing tracking. Most apps can be replaced with a web version. * A maps app, Organic Maps or OsmAnd work great * A media player like VLC if you're switching away from something like Spotify or regularly download audio/video from Youtube * A notes app. I like Joplin for its sync feature, but other tools like Markor, Notally, and Simple notes are all good. * An RSS reader, its great for following accounts across platforms and beats out most dedicated apps. Read You + Fresh RSS goes great, but Feeder works great too (& has Nostr article support) * A YT client like NewPipe or Grayjay if you watch/listen to YT on your device * Some form of cloud storage/sync - be it Proton Drive, Syncthing, Nextcloud, or something else * Basic offline tools - equate (unit conversion) tape measure, tasks (to do reminders), trail sense (outdoor oriented tools), pocketpal (local llms), Snapseed (photo editor - by Google but runs offline with no G services needed), TTSutil (text to speech or audio file tool) * Messaging apps - I use Beeper (for Google chat) and Signal because that's what family uses, it'll vary depending on what you need * App stores - Aurora, F-Droid, Acresent, Zap Store, Obtanium - take your pick * Termux or the integrated Linux terminal if you want to run CLI software * Games, there's plenty of foss games to kill time with. A few recommendations: Anuto TD, SuperTuxKart, Unciv, Endless Sky, Tri Peaks, Solitaire, Domination, emulators. * An ebook reader (I use Librera) + optionally a TTS engine * And since we're on Nostr: Nostr clients/tools, proxies (vpns, orbot, Tor Browser, I2P), and/or crypto wallets depending on what you're personally looking for.