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Rights are fake. They’re just nice words used to manipulate subjects into being more docile. Nobody has rights and governments/police/municipalities prove this continually by violating individual rights whenever they want. The point of Bitcoin is that anyone can use it and we don’t need to ask permission. Who cares what retarded words the BIS publish. Just do what you want with permission-less money.

But guns and cops and prisons are real. And those things will continue to be threats as long as there is terrible privacy within bitcoin

They will always be threats. But realize the people with monopolies on violence are not omnipotent. They do not have the man power or funding or support to wage a war on people who use Bitcoin. There are way too many users and there is no way to enforce using no-KYC Bitcoin even if they wanted to. But realistically those in power have their hands more than full and thousands of other groups who they are more worried about. Prisons are full, courts are clogged. Thinking govts will tear out after millions of bitcoiner’s are just anxious delusions.

Bitcoin privacy is fine. Just don't EVER off-ramp with KYC. Period.

Try making that argument about taxes. They don’t need man power when they can use AI to analyze large swathes of data in seconds. And nowadays it takes a phone call to turn off your bank account. You are underestimating the drive of the government to suck you dry of every last dollar

There is a massive amount of tax evasion and the government can’t do shit about it. They do not have the ability to investigate or enforce 99.9999% of tax evasion. Asking the government for “rights” to posses bitcoin will do absolutely nothing. Rights don’t mean anything to them. Asking the oppressors to be nice pinky promise is pointless and retarded. The only option is have non-KYC Bitcoin and have your keys properly secured.

Sorry but this is a load of bullshit and insulting to people who have been caught up in this stuff like Ross. The cypherpunks would have used encryption regardless but they purposely brought the fight to the government so schmucks like me and you could get a modicum of privacy without having to be political dissidents.

Yeah government picks one high profile case and makes a stink hiping to scare the 10,000 others who are doing the same things on a smaller scale. It doesn’t work though. The government can investigate/prosecute/jail maybe 1 in 10,000 cases of tax evasion. Most small businesses commit tax fraud whenever they get a cash sale and there are ≈35,000,000 of those on a given day. There are millions of people who sell stuff without paying taxes daily. Drug dealers are in the millions too. Almost none of it gets discovered let alone prosecuted because there aren’t even close to enough investigators/police/courts/jail cells. The Ross thing was the 1:10,000. You sound like a scared man who needs the governments permission. Just buy some ibit and chill 😂😂

The point is now

if? no, because.

You are more of a economist then they are, because you got it. They are thiefs, thats all.

I took econ 101 in college, but honestly think I learned more stacking boxes in a truck while listening to audiobooks and podcasts like EconTalk.

I propose to replace the economists of the BIS with people who actually know what they're talking about when it comes to global finance.

I propose to eliminate the BIS and all global central banks, eliminate all global fiat currency, past laws in all countries requiring balanced budgets, and require scarce money such as #Monero, #Gold, and #Bitcoin. Any person who violates any of the above shall be executed by lethal injection.

I'll accept Monero over your dirty Bitcoin every single time. Bitcoin forked a second time in KYC shit and non KYC taint. The outcome will be horrible on both ends of the spectrum.

Exactly, just fucking don't use their shit economy.

We should be cautious though, and carefully prepare the community for how to argue against - and fight against - such KYC proposals The US is offering tax breaks to miners in the US. Maybe those tax breaks will become conditional on the miner censoring certain transactions That would have only a tiny impact, as other miners will include those transactions in the next block. But those small attacks could add up over time I think it's critical the we encourage bitcoin adoption (merchants, mining, SBRs) around the world, starting with African countries and India and so on, in order to make it more difficult for one county (the US) or one bloc (the EU) to cause trouble

Then the value of the Bitcoin that hasn't would skyrocket.

Know anyone that has black SATs? Need to score some black SATs.

What are you talking about? Non-black market Bitcoin is what would increase in value. All the stuff associated with crime will be worth much less.

A slave is a slave because he fears to use the tools that destroy his identity that he dismisses for his life.

That would have serious consequences for the food industry if we take Augustus Carstens out the game.

Damn, two birds, one stone.

So when dragons breath fire, you say its just a FUD ? So naive.

There's no fire, or dragons, or practical way to keep non-kyc Bitcoin out of the market.