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Some Thoughts on Adoption (and other nonsense). There's this old Louis C.K. clip—recorded long before he was cancelled—that summarizes our modern conundrum well: "Everything's amazing and nobody's happy." As I was walking towards the hospital today—after a way too early 5:30 rise—it dawned on me that wide-scale nostr adoption (and "proper" wide-scale bitcoin adoption, for that matter) is probably not going to happen. The good news is that it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The bad news is that lots of people will suffer. "Why so bearish?" I hear you ask. If you know me just a little bit you'll know that, even though I do have many faults, being bearish isn't one of them. I'm still incredibly optimistic when it comes to the adoption and proliferation of freedom tech. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing what I do. Here's what dawned on me, though: People aren't even interested in their own health, why would they be interested in healthy money? Yes, everyone wants to be healthy. But doing what is necessary to live a healthy lifestyle? Not interested. Not in the least. Usually something really really bad has to happen for people to change their ways. And even that doesn't move the needle in some cases, as plenty of drinkers who still drink after their liver gave up, or plenty a smoker who still smokes after being diagnosed with lung cancer can attest to. Which brings me to bitcoin treasury companies. Are most of them interested in taking the responsibility of holding their own keys? Are they interested in providing real value while staying humble and stacking sats? No, of course not. They are interested in paper gains, not in a full-blown reorientation that leads to a healthier lifestyle. And I mean that literally: if you truly and fully adopt bitcoin, the responsibility that is entailed by that will result in a reorientation, a re-alignment of values, which will—down the line—lead to more long-term thinking, healthier business practices, more honest value generation, and so on. To me, this is what "capital B" Bitcoin is about. Change. Real change. A ridiculous proposition to the balance sheet brain. ...which brings me to nostr. A short stroll through the current iteration of the internet should make clear that the platforms that most people spend their time on are incredibly mis-aligned with humanity. The outrage-machine that we've built for ourselves is keeping us like rats in Skinner boxes, hitting the dopamine button with every swipe and every scroll, no matter what. We've built a machine that is parasitic on humanity, instead of synergistic. We are optimizing for engagement, which means that we are maximizing addiction by shoving a mixture of uppers (porn) and downers (rage bait) down our collective throats. The machine is catering to our lowest selves, as opposed to our highest selves. (We could also optimize for the True, the Good, and the Beautiful, you know. Is that too much to ask?) But who is to blame for all of that? (And is it worth blaming someone in the first place?) It is clear to me that the whole military-grade industrial advertising complex that profits from running large-scale and nonstop psychological experiments on the whole fucking population of the earth wouldn't be profitable for long if we would all get our act together. But that won't happen, of course. There won't be a magical finger snap that suddenly shakes us awake from our slumber; that stops us from sleepwalking into dystopia. Just like there won't be a magical finger snap that stops us from our bad habits and unhealthy lifestyles. Adopting a healthy way of living is hard. It means saying no to the constant onslaught of sugary snacks, fast-food around every corner, and social pressures to indulge. It means taking responsibility for your decisions, cultivating discipline, taking care of your body, your psyche, and yes, also your soul. A wise man once said that "he who has a 'why' can bear almost any 'how'." And that's what most of us are missing: a strong enough "why." Why go through the trouble of living healthy? It's hard! Why hold your own keys, if someone else can do it for you, and there's even the apparent safety of some insurance? Why cultivate a less destructive relationship to the internet, if you can just autoplay & chill, whether it be with Netflix, YouTube, TikTok, PornHub, or something else? Why not write the snarky comment and trigger a whole cohort of people at the click of a button? Because it's not healthy, that's why. "Everything's amazing and nobody's happy." That's the state of the world. Always has been. And I'm to blame too, of course. Sitting in the hospital waiting room, writing these lines, bitching and moaning about the internet, this amazing series of tubes that I so love, warts and all. But yeah, the internet won't heal itself over night. Neither will the economy, nor the rent-seeking zombie companies that don't provide value, nor the underlying fiat system that broke it all in the first place. It will take lots of time, lots of courage, lots of faith, and lots of responsibility. It will be hard, but it will also be worth it. And it starts with you.

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I mean of all the things in this reality, Satoshi picked literally the most difficult battle! The legacy fiat squid 🐙 game has tentacles running through every fabric of our existence, the powers that be will not go down without a biblical ending, they cannot at any cost lose the financial grip of power. It is indeed a case of be the change you want to see in the world. As you say, can the normies see it and even if they do, would they rather just get plugged back into the fiat matrix like cypher and eat his steak with red wine 🍷 🤔
Rational thoughts. It will take generations and even then most will be inorant or too distracted to see the power. But one thing I'm optimistic about is that we, that see the power, will get more over time. Governments will force more and more people to find Bitcoin and Nostr and other open source tools.
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Some Thoughts on Adoption (and other nonsense). There's this old Louis C.K. clip—recorded long before he was cancelled—that summarizes our modern conundrum well: "Everything's amazing and nobody's happy." As I was walking towards the hospital today—after a way too early 5:30 rise—it dawned on me that wide-scale nostr adoption (and "proper" wide-scale bitcoin adoption, for that matter) is probably not going to happen. The good news is that it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The bad news is that lots of people will suffer. "Why so bearish?" I hear you ask. If you know me just a little bit you'll know that, even though I do have many faults, being bearish isn't one of them. I'm still incredibly optimistic when it comes to the adoption and proliferation of freedom tech. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing what I do. Here's what dawned on me, though: People aren't even interested in their own health, why would they be interested in healthy money? Yes, everyone wants to be healthy. But doing what is necessary to live a healthy lifestyle? Not interested. Not in the least. Usually something really really bad has to happen for people to change their ways. And even that doesn't move the needle in some cases, as plenty of drinkers who still drink after their liver gave up, or plenty a smoker who still smokes after being diagnosed with lung cancer can attest to. Which brings me to bitcoin treasury companies. Are most of them interested in taking the responsibility of holding their own keys? Are they interested in providing real value while staying humble and stacking sats? No, of course not. They are interested in paper gains, not in a full-blown reorientation that leads to a healthier lifestyle. And I mean that literally: if you truly and fully adopt bitcoin, the responsibility that is entailed by that will result in a reorientation, a re-alignment of values, which will—down the line—lead to more long-term thinking, healthier business practices, more honest value generation, and so on. To me, this is what "capital B" Bitcoin is about. Change. Real change. A ridiculous proposition to the balance sheet brain. ...which brings me to nostr. A short stroll through the current iteration of the internet should make clear that the platforms that most people spend their time on are incredibly mis-aligned with humanity. The outrage-machine that we've built for ourselves is keeping us like rats in Skinner boxes, hitting the dopamine button with every swipe and every scroll, no matter what. We've built a machine that is parasitic on humanity, instead of synergistic. We are optimizing for engagement, which means that we are maximizing addiction by shoving a mixture of uppers (porn) and downers (rage bait) down our collective throats. The machine is catering to our lowest selves, as opposed to our highest selves. (We could also optimize for the True, the Good, and the Beautiful, you know. Is that too much to ask?) But who is to blame for all of that? (And is it worth blaming someone in the first place?) It is clear to me that the whole military-grade industrial advertising complex that profits from running large-scale and nonstop psychological experiments on the whole fucking population of the earth wouldn't be profitable for long if we would all get our act together. But that won't happen, of course. There won't be a magical finger snap that suddenly shakes us awake from our slumber; that stops us from sleepwalking into dystopia. Just like there won't be a magical finger snap that stops us from our bad habits and unhealthy lifestyles. Adopting a healthy way of living is hard. It means saying no to the constant onslaught of sugary snacks, fast-food around every corner, and social pressures to indulge. It means taking responsibility for your decisions, cultivating discipline, taking care of your body, your psyche, and yes, also your soul. A wise man once said that "he who has a 'why' can bear almost any 'how'." And that's what most of us are missing: a strong enough "why." Why go through the trouble of living healthy? It's hard! Why hold your own keys, if someone else can do it for you, and there's even the apparent safety of some insurance? Why cultivate a less destructive relationship to the internet, if you can just autoplay & chill, whether it be with Netflix, YouTube, TikTok, PornHub, or something else? Why not write the snarky comment and trigger a whole cohort of people at the click of a button? Because it's not healthy, that's why. "Everything's amazing and nobody's happy." That's the state of the world. Always has been. And I'm to blame too, of course. Sitting in the hospital waiting room, writing these lines, bitching and moaning about the internet, this amazing series of tubes that I so love, warts and all. But yeah, the internet won't heal itself over night. Neither will the economy, nor the rent-seeking zombie companies that don't provide value, nor the underlying fiat system that broke it all in the first place. It will take lots of time, lots of courage, lots of faith, and lots of responsibility. It will be hard, but it will also be worth it. And it starts with you.
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Gigi's avatar Gigi
Some Thoughts on Adoption (and other nonsense). There's this old Louis C.K. clip—recorded long before he was cancelled—that summarizes our modern conundrum well: "Everything's amazing and nobody's happy." As I was walking towards the hospital today—after a way too early 5:30 rise—it dawned on me that wide-scale nostr adoption (and "proper" wide-scale bitcoin adoption, for that matter) is probably not going to happen. The good news is that it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The bad news is that lots of people will suffer. "Why so bearish?" I hear you ask. If you know me just a little bit you'll know that, even though I do have many faults, being bearish isn't one of them. I'm still incredibly optimistic when it comes to the adoption and proliferation of freedom tech. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing what I do. Here's what dawned on me, though: People aren't even interested in their own health, why would they be interested in healthy money? Yes, everyone wants to be healthy. But doing what is necessary to live a healthy lifestyle? Not interested. Not in the least. Usually something really really bad has to happen for people to change their ways. And even that doesn't move the needle in some cases, as plenty of drinkers who still drink after their liver gave up, or plenty a smoker who still smokes after being diagnosed with lung cancer can attest to. Which brings me to bitcoin treasury companies. Are most of them interested in taking the responsibility of holding their own keys? Are they interested in providing real value while staying humble and stacking sats? No, of course not. They are interested in paper gains, not in a full-blown reorientation that leads to a healthier lifestyle. And I mean that literally: if you truly and fully adopt bitcoin, the responsibility that is entailed by that will result in a reorientation, a re-alignment of values, which will—down the line—lead to more long-term thinking, healthier business practices, more honest value generation, and so on. To me, this is what "capital B" Bitcoin is about. Change. Real change. A ridiculous proposition to the balance sheet brain. ...which brings me to nostr. A short stroll through the current iteration of the internet should make clear that the platforms that most people spend their time on are incredibly mis-aligned with humanity. The outrage-machine that we've built for ourselves is keeping us like rats in Skinner boxes, hitting the dopamine button with every swipe and every scroll, no matter what. We've built a machine that is parasitic on humanity, instead of synergistic. We are optimizing for engagement, which means that we are maximizing addiction by shoving a mixture of uppers (porn) and downers (rage bait) down our collective throats. The machine is catering to our lowest selves, as opposed to our highest selves. (We could also optimize for the True, the Good, and the Beautiful, you know. Is that too much to ask?) But who is to blame for all of that? (And is it worth blaming someone in the first place?) It is clear to me that the whole military-grade industrial advertising complex that profits from running large-scale and nonstop psychological experiments on the whole fucking population of the earth wouldn't be profitable for long if we would all get our act together. But that won't happen, of course. There won't be a magical finger snap that suddenly shakes us awake from our slumber; that stops us from sleepwalking into dystopia. Just like there won't be a magical finger snap that stops us from our bad habits and unhealthy lifestyles. Adopting a healthy way of living is hard. It means saying no to the constant onslaught of sugary snacks, fast-food around every corner, and social pressures to indulge. It means taking responsibility for your decisions, cultivating discipline, taking care of your body, your psyche, and yes, also your soul. A wise man once said that "he who has a 'why' can bear almost any 'how'." And that's what most of us are missing: a strong enough "why." Why go through the trouble of living healthy? It's hard! Why hold your own keys, if someone else can do it for you, and there's even the apparent safety of some insurance? Why cultivate a less destructive relationship to the internet, if you can just autoplay & chill, whether it be with Netflix, YouTube, TikTok, PornHub, or something else? Why not write the snarky comment and trigger a whole cohort of people at the click of a button? Because it's not healthy, that's why. "Everything's amazing and nobody's happy." That's the state of the world. Always has been. And I'm to blame too, of course. Sitting in the hospital waiting room, writing these lines, bitching and moaning about the internet, this amazing series of tubes that I so love, warts and all. But yeah, the internet won't heal itself over night. Neither will the economy, nor the rent-seeking zombie companies that don't provide value, nor the underlying fiat system that broke it all in the first place. It will take lots of time, lots of courage, lots of faith, and lots of responsibility. It will be hard, but it will also be worth it. And it starts with you.
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Evangelising Bitcoin, a healthy way of living, etc taught me this. Fiat damage over generations won't be fixed in one, but i always remember Freidrich Hayek: "We must make the building of a free society once more an intellectual adventure, a deed of courage. What we lack is a liberal Utopia, a programme which seems neither a mere defence of things as they are nor a diluted kind of socialism, but a truly liberal radicalism which does not spare the susceptibilities of the mighty…, which is not too severely practical and which does not confine itself to what appears today as politically possible. We need intellectual leaders who are prepared to resist the blandishments of power and influence and who are willing to work for an ideal, however small may be the prospects of its early realization. They must be men who are willing to stick to principles and to fight for their full realization, however remote. … Unless we can make the philosophical foundations of a free society once more a living intellectual issue, and its implementation a task which challenges the ingenuity and imagination of our liveliest minds, the prospects of freedom are indeed dark. But if we can regain that belief in the power of ideas which was the mark of liberalism at its best, the battle is not lost.” So my "why" and so i build.. despite knowing that you can't make a horse drink the water, we must build and maintain the lakes - the lakes of freedom. View quoted note →
Elitist crap Ppl want to be healthy and ppl want sound money And being healthy isn't particularly hard when you live in a healthy society This is the perspective of an elitist who lives in an unhealthy society and self-congratulates for being a bit better than the ppl surrounding them who have fallen victim to the small vampiric class who preys on that society
So, so right. I’m surrounded by people who are ‘gonna get healthy, gonna quit smoking/drinking, gonna look into Bitcoin, etc’,…….tomorrow. Most people want (perceived) security over freedom. We’ll always have them, just as we’ll always have the poor. Loved the ‘True, Good, & Beautiful’ reference, btw
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I've been watching Mr. Robot so I heard Rami Malek's voice while reading this and it fit perfectly. All so true. And yet I feel optimistic. Maybe it's because over the last 5 years I finally wanted to be healthy enough to try. Even just having the option of healthy money and the prospect of a healthier Internet should be celebrated IMHO. Thank you for your contributions to both @Gigi 🧡💜
Gigi you’re a very gifted writer, I’m glad you’re on Nostr sharing your thoughts. It certainly resonates with me. We live in a time where anyone can learn anything and we waste it with cat videos, call of duty and porn. The sands of time keep pouring. The future is here, the tools are here. May we learn from our mistakes. Have hope, and maybe sometimes we can be happy.
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“The outrage-machine that we've built for ourselves is keeping us like rats in Skinner boxes, hitting the dopamine button with every swipe and every scroll, no matter what. We've built a machine that is parasitic on humanity, instead of synergistic. We are optimizing for engagement, which means that we are maximizing addiction by shoving a mixture of uppers (porn) and downers (rage bait) down our collective throats. The machine is catering to our lowest selves, as opposed to our highest selves. (We could also optimize for the True, the Good, and the Beautiful, you know. Is that too much to ask?)” View quoted note →
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Thoughtful and worth reading. I'll disagree with one thing, though. The apathy that most people have about their health, sovereignty, attention, security and so on are all bought with fiat money, and once that goes away, I don't think the economics work nearly as well as they do today. Not everybody will take the orange or purple pill, of course, but enough will when the subsidization gets lower. View quoted note →
Reared on a diet of convenience compared to discomfort that morphs into mindset change takes a longer trip. I'm happy to learn what other Nostrs think, because the reality I'm in, is stagnant, or in the too hard basket. Being yelled at, when I do something that's not approved in their eyes, shows the unhappiness that they've embraced. Worse still - don't want to see it - dont have to deal with it. Love your breakdown. Thanks.
I forgot to mention that nostr is amazing (and working) and bitcoin is amazing (and working) and Lightning is amazing too (and also working). Hyperbitcoinization is happening before our eyes, nostr is being adopted and improves at an insane speed, and yet, nobody is happy. In short: GM PV and gfy 🤙
Gigi's avatar Gigi
Some Thoughts on Adoption (and other nonsense). There's this old Louis C.K. clip—recorded long before he was cancelled—that summarizes our modern conundrum well: "Everything's amazing and nobody's happy." As I was walking towards the hospital today—after a way too early 5:30 rise—it dawned on me that wide-scale nostr adoption (and "proper" wide-scale bitcoin adoption, for that matter) is probably not going to happen. The good news is that it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The bad news is that lots of people will suffer. "Why so bearish?" I hear you ask. If you know me just a little bit you'll know that, even though I do have many faults, being bearish isn't one of them. I'm still incredibly optimistic when it comes to the adoption and proliferation of freedom tech. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing what I do. Here's what dawned on me, though: People aren't even interested in their own health, why would they be interested in healthy money? Yes, everyone wants to be healthy. But doing what is necessary to live a healthy lifestyle? Not interested. Not in the least. Usually something really really bad has to happen for people to change their ways. And even that doesn't move the needle in some cases, as plenty of drinkers who still drink after their liver gave up, or plenty a smoker who still smokes after being diagnosed with lung cancer can attest to. Which brings me to bitcoin treasury companies. Are most of them interested in taking the responsibility of holding their own keys? Are they interested in providing real value while staying humble and stacking sats? No, of course not. They are interested in paper gains, not in a full-blown reorientation that leads to a healthier lifestyle. And I mean that literally: if you truly and fully adopt bitcoin, the responsibility that is entailed by that will result in a reorientation, a re-alignment of values, which will—down the line—lead to more long-term thinking, healthier business practices, more honest value generation, and so on. To me, this is what "capital B" Bitcoin is about. Change. Real change. A ridiculous proposition to the balance sheet brain. ...which brings me to nostr. A short stroll through the current iteration of the internet should make clear that the platforms that most people spend their time on are incredibly mis-aligned with humanity. The outrage-machine that we've built for ourselves is keeping us like rats in Skinner boxes, hitting the dopamine button with every swipe and every scroll, no matter what. We've built a machine that is parasitic on humanity, instead of synergistic. We are optimizing for engagement, which means that we are maximizing addiction by shoving a mixture of uppers (porn) and downers (rage bait) down our collective throats. The machine is catering to our lowest selves, as opposed to our highest selves. (We could also optimize for the True, the Good, and the Beautiful, you know. Is that too much to ask?) But who is to blame for all of that? (And is it worth blaming someone in the first place?) It is clear to me that the whole military-grade industrial advertising complex that profits from running large-scale and nonstop psychological experiments on the whole fucking population of the earth wouldn't be profitable for long if we would all get our act together. But that won't happen, of course. There won't be a magical finger snap that suddenly shakes us awake from our slumber; that stops us from sleepwalking into dystopia. Just like there won't be a magical finger snap that stops us from our bad habits and unhealthy lifestyles. Adopting a healthy way of living is hard. It means saying no to the constant onslaught of sugary snacks, fast-food around every corner, and social pressures to indulge. It means taking responsibility for your decisions, cultivating discipline, taking care of your body, your psyche, and yes, also your soul. A wise man once said that "he who has a 'why' can bear almost any 'how'." And that's what most of us are missing: a strong enough "why." Why go through the trouble of living healthy? It's hard! Why hold your own keys, if someone else can do it for you, and there's even the apparent safety of some insurance? Why cultivate a less destructive relationship to the internet, if you can just autoplay & chill, whether it be with Netflix, YouTube, TikTok, PornHub, or something else? Why not write the snarky comment and trigger a whole cohort of people at the click of a button? Because it's not healthy, that's why. "Everything's amazing and nobody's happy." That's the state of the world. Always has been. And I'm to blame too, of course. Sitting in the hospital waiting room, writing these lines, bitching and moaning about the internet, this amazing series of tubes that I so love, warts and all. But yeah, the internet won't heal itself over night. Neither will the economy, nor the rent-seeking zombie companies that don't provide value, nor the underlying fiat system that broke it all in the first place. It will take lots of time, lots of courage, lots of faith, and lots of responsibility. It will be hard, but it will also be worth it. And it starts with you.
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I think you hit the nail on the head with "why" vs "how". But being healthy, in normal senses of the word, is not a strong enough why; and I don't think that's irrational. Which certainly supports a pessimistic view. On the positive side, even an unrealistic goal can be enough to sustain you as long as you feel properly and fully aligned with it. Bitcoin adoption by the masses is an unrealistic goal, I always thought so, but pursuing it is still a worthwhile endeavor. That kind of "why" doesn't suit most people. So, the best outcome in practice *might* only be "bitcoin banks", but as long as the hard path of self sovereignty exists at all, it's still not in vain. The future we are fighting against is the one where we don't even have the option. To be clear we may very well lose.
Algunas ideas sobre la adopción (y otras tonterías). Hay este viejo clip de Louis C.K., grabado mucho antes de que fuera cancelado, que resume bien nuestro enigma moderno: "Todo es increíble y nadie está feliz". Mientras caminaba hacia el hospital hoy, después de madrugar demasiado temprano de las 5:30, me di cuenta de que la adopción de nostr a gran escala (y la adopción "adecuada" de bitcoin a gran escala, para el caso) probablemente no va a suceder. La buena noticia es que no importa en el gran esquema de las cosas. La mala noticia es que mucha gente sufrirá. "¿Por qué tan bajista?" Te oigo preguntar. Si me conoces solo un poco, sabrás que, aunque tengo muchos defectos, ser bajista no es uno de ellos. Todavía soy increíblemente optimista cuando se trata de la adopción y proliferación de la tecnología de la libertad. De lo contrario, no estaría haciendo lo que hago. Sin embargo, esto es lo que me di cuenta: la gente ni siquiera está interesada en su propia salud, ¿por qué estarían interesados en el dinero saludable? Sí, todo el mundo quiere estar sano. ¿Pero hacer lo necesario para vivir un estilo de vida saludable? No me interesa. En lo más mínimo. Por lo general, tiene que pasar algo realmente malo para que la gente cambie sus costumbres. E incluso eso no mueve la aguja en algunos casos, ya que muchos bebedores que todavía beben después de que su hígado se haya detenido, o muchos fumadores que todavía fuman después de ser diagnosticados con cáncer de pulmón pueden dar fe. Lo que me lleva a las compañías de tesorería de bitcoin. ¿La mayoría de ellos están interesados en asumir la responsabilidad de mantener sus propias llaves? ¿Están interesados en proporcionar un valor real mientras se mantienen humildes y acumulan satélites? No, por supuesto que no. Están interesados en las ganancias en papel, no en una reorientación completa que conduzca a un estilo de vida más saludable. Y quiero decir que literalmente: si realmente y completamente adopta bitcoin, la responsabilidad que conlleva resultará en una reorientación, una realineación de valores, que conducirá, en el futuro, a un pensamiento a largo plazo, prácticas comerciales más saludables, una generación de valor más honesta, etc. Para mí, de esto se trata Bitcoin "B mayúscula". Cambio. Cambio real. Una proposición ridícula para el cerebro del balance. ...Que me lleva a nosotros. Un breve paseo por la iteración actual de Internet debería dejar claro que las plataformas en las que la mayoría de la gente pasa su tiempo están increíblemente desalineadas con la humanidad. La máquina de indignación que hemos construido para nosotros mismos nos mantiene como ratas en cajas de Skinner, golpeando el botón de dopamina con cada deslizamiento y cada desplazamiento, pase lo que pase. Hemos construido una máquina que es parásita para la humanidad, en lugar de sinérgica. Estamos optimizando el compromiso, lo que significa que estamos maximizando la adicción empujando una mezcla de partes superiores (porno) y deprimidos (cebo de rabia) por nuestras gargantas colectivas. La máquina está atendiendo a nuestro yo más bajo, en lugar de nuestro yo más alto. (También podríamos optimizar lo Verdadero, lo Bueno y lo Bello, ya sabes. ¿Es mucho pedir?) Pero, ¿quién tiene la culpa de todo eso? (¿Y vale la pena culpar a alguien en primer lugar?) Para mí está claro que todo el complejo de publicidad industrial de grado militar que se beneficia de la ejecución de experimentos psicológicos a gran escala y sin parar en toda la puta población de la tierra no sería rentable por mucho tiempo si todos nos uniéramos. Pero eso no sucederá, por supuesto. No habrá un chasquido mágico de dedos que de repente nos despierte de nuestro sueño; que nos impida dormir en la distopía. Al igual que no habrá un chasquido mágico de dedos que nos detenga de nuestros malos hábitos y estilos de vida poco saludables. Adoptar una forma de vida saludable es difícil. Significa decir no a la constante avalancha de bocadillos azucarados, comida rápida en cada esquina y presiones sociales para complacer. Significa asumir la responsabilidad de tus decisiones, cultivar la disciplina, cuidar tu cuerpo, tu psique y, sí, también tu alma. Un hombre sabio dijo una vez que "el que tiene un 'por qué' puede soportar casi cualquier 'cómo'". Y eso es lo que a la mayoría de nosotros nos falta: un "por qué" lo suficientemente fuerte. ¿Por qué pasar por la molestia de vivir sano? ¡Es difícil! ¿Por qué guardar tus propias llaves, si alguien más puede hacerlo por ti, e incluso existe la aparente seguridad de algún seguro? ¿Por qué cultivar una relación menos destructiva con Internet, si puedes simplemente reproducir automáticamente y relajarte, ya sea con Netflix, YouTube, TikTok, PornHub o algo más? ¿Por qué no escribir el comentario sarcástico y desencadenar toda una cohorte de personas con solo hacer clic en un botón? Porque no es saludable, por eso. "Todo es increíble y nadie está contento". Ese es el estado del mundo. Siempre lo ha sido. Y yo también tengo la culpa, por supuesto. Sentado en la sala de espera del hospital, escribiendo estas líneas, quejándome y gimiendo sobre Internet, esta increíble serie de tubos que me encantan, verrugas y todo. Pero sí, Internet no se curará de la noche a la mañana. Tampoco lo hará la economía, ni las empresas zombis que buscan rentas que no proporcionan valor, ni el sistema fiduciario subyacente que lo rompió todo en primer lugar. Se necesitará mucho tiempo, mucho coraje, mucha fe y mucha responsabilidad. Será difícil, pero también valdrá la pena. Y empieza contigo. nostr: View quoted note → View quoted note →
The reason people aren’t interested in fixing their health (or their freedom) is rather simple. Conservation of energy. Humans will always do what requires the least amount of effort, except in two cases: The payoff justifies the energy expenditure and/or it’s necessary for survival. It’s a biological imperative, unfortunately. Which makes those who fight and overcome it all the more impressive, imho.
If you are grounded in your identity you cannot be manipulated by your feelings anymore. We in the west are depleted of spirituality. Its an epidemic poverty of spirit. Once spirit is back, the WHY is back. Once WHY is back, alignment is back. FIAT brings us material poverty, material poverty brings us back to the spirit, spirituality brings us back to discipline, health and responsability. Thats PoW. <3 You are not bearish, you are just seeing.
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Gigi's avatar Gigi
Some Thoughts on Adoption (and other nonsense). There's this old Louis C.K. clip—recorded long before he was cancelled—that summarizes our modern conundrum well: "Everything's amazing and nobody's happy." As I was walking towards the hospital today—after a way too early 5:30 rise—it dawned on me that wide-scale nostr adoption (and "proper" wide-scale bitcoin adoption, for that matter) is probably not going to happen. The good news is that it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The bad news is that lots of people will suffer. "Why so bearish?" I hear you ask. If you know me just a little bit you'll know that, even though I do have many faults, being bearish isn't one of them. I'm still incredibly optimistic when it comes to the adoption and proliferation of freedom tech. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing what I do. Here's what dawned on me, though: People aren't even interested in their own health, why would they be interested in healthy money? Yes, everyone wants to be healthy. But doing what is necessary to live a healthy lifestyle? Not interested. Not in the least. Usually something really really bad has to happen for people to change their ways. And even that doesn't move the needle in some cases, as plenty of drinkers who still drink after their liver gave up, or plenty a smoker who still smokes after being diagnosed with lung cancer can attest to. Which brings me to bitcoin treasury companies. Are most of them interested in taking the responsibility of holding their own keys? Are they interested in providing real value while staying humble and stacking sats? No, of course not. They are interested in paper gains, not in a full-blown reorientation that leads to a healthier lifestyle. And I mean that literally: if you truly and fully adopt bitcoin, the responsibility that is entailed by that will result in a reorientation, a re-alignment of values, which will—down the line—lead to more long-term thinking, healthier business practices, more honest value generation, and so on. To me, this is what "capital B" Bitcoin is about. Change. Real change. A ridiculous proposition to the balance sheet brain. ...which brings me to nostr. A short stroll through the current iteration of the internet should make clear that the platforms that most people spend their time on are incredibly mis-aligned with humanity. The outrage-machine that we've built for ourselves is keeping us like rats in Skinner boxes, hitting the dopamine button with every swipe and every scroll, no matter what. We've built a machine that is parasitic on humanity, instead of synergistic. We are optimizing for engagement, which means that we are maximizing addiction by shoving a mixture of uppers (porn) and downers (rage bait) down our collective throats. The machine is catering to our lowest selves, as opposed to our highest selves. (We could also optimize for the True, the Good, and the Beautiful, you know. Is that too much to ask?) But who is to blame for all of that? (And is it worth blaming someone in the first place?) It is clear to me that the whole military-grade industrial advertising complex that profits from running large-scale and nonstop psychological experiments on the whole fucking population of the earth wouldn't be profitable for long if we would all get our act together. But that won't happen, of course. There won't be a magical finger snap that suddenly shakes us awake from our slumber; that stops us from sleepwalking into dystopia. Just like there won't be a magical finger snap that stops us from our bad habits and unhealthy lifestyles. Adopting a healthy way of living is hard. It means saying no to the constant onslaught of sugary snacks, fast-food around every corner, and social pressures to indulge. It means taking responsibility for your decisions, cultivating discipline, taking care of your body, your psyche, and yes, also your soul. A wise man once said that "he who has a 'why' can bear almost any 'how'." And that's what most of us are missing: a strong enough "why." Why go through the trouble of living healthy? It's hard! Why hold your own keys, if someone else can do it for you, and there's even the apparent safety of some insurance? Why cultivate a less destructive relationship to the internet, if you can just autoplay & chill, whether it be with Netflix, YouTube, TikTok, PornHub, or something else? Why not write the snarky comment and trigger a whole cohort of people at the click of a button? Because it's not healthy, that's why. "Everything's amazing and nobody's happy." That's the state of the world. Always has been. And I'm to blame too, of course. Sitting in the hospital waiting room, writing these lines, bitching and moaning about the internet, this amazing series of tubes that I so love, warts and all. But yeah, the internet won't heal itself over night. Neither will the economy, nor the rent-seeking zombie companies that don't provide value, nor the underlying fiat system that broke it all in the first place. It will take lots of time, lots of courage, lots of faith, and lots of responsibility. It will be hard, but it will also be worth it. And it starts with you.
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Bitcoin is brand. People love status and BTC provide them bigger one, if they into crypto or decentralization space. There are also a lot of people who invested into it so its additional source of noise 👀 The only way for adoption of BTC is CBDC. It works like this: countries use specific CBDC service. It gives citizens "BTC" based on current price. How? Just display BTC brand on screen, it's enough for social proof and satisfactory consumption of cultural signals. When citizen "spends it", vendor get fiat money. It could have expiration date. Everything is possible, if you not use BTC itself. Because you cannot use it. This is outdated tech with most prestige brand. Even security suck, because miners are separated from nodes. If I were a top executive at a three letter agency, I will map locations of most successful miners and give them nodes with amazing propagation time to take control of what they will put into blocks. Not even talking about scalability. Any block size will not help you with it. BTC is just museum asset. Please, not talk about BTC adoption. I get that brands are tasty, but just promote Monero. It needs it. Privacy is a must. Your credit card gives you more privacy than public blockchain. Public one cannot be adopted by masses, until you want to go into dystopia. But they can be good for content creators. I will create a lot of stuffs for content creators. But only on programmable ones. Edit: fixed typos
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Reading through the comments: Most people don’t comment about why you’re walking towards the hospital… the handful who did an answer was not supplied. If it’s private, it’s understandable, but is everyone/ will everyone be ok?
As genius, And as clear a solution to many modern problems, You can bet the end result on the lowest percentile of users. 60% of the world lives on 5$ a day, Of that 20% live on 1.50$ and what they can domestically produce. Somewhere in Sub-Saharan Africa, A 67 year old grandmother will grow a crop of tomatoes to trade for 40kg of rice and a couple chickens. Her primary income is sustained by her physical efforts, Not her digital value. There is a tipping point where the 60% adopt bitcoin instead of a bank account. Sadly the most influential people in the Bitcoin community are more concerned with spam blocks and MEV, Than helping the poor. The most direct impact Bitcoin can have on global poverty would be to bitcoinize the coltan trade. In Kolwesii, DRC, Children, Like 12 year olds, Work for this 1.50$ a day. The average lifespan is 35 for males, And people typically have families of up to 8 because so many people die young there. No coltan, No bitcoin hashrate progression, No mining industry. Fuck your Tesla, End generational poverty in the DRC first. Fuck your spam block, End generational poverty. Fuck your code bro. Change the world.
I think in extreme situations like this you need people to go to these places, With free computers, Mining equipment, And probably an electric infrastructure grid project, To provide resources to these disadvantaged people. The Bitcoin mine in Virunga park, The north of the DRC seems to be the best chance of local people creating a bitcoin economy, With the ability to explain in a local language how bitcoin works. Imagine doing all that hard work to find out how people are benefiting with no knowledge of the supply chain driving around in their electric vehicles believing they are morally superior while children literally work themselves to death for raw minerals.
What resources are you providing? Mining equipment and knowledge? They way it usually works is your team owns and operates the mine, possibly hiring a few locals, and that's about it except for some money flowing into the economy via food and housing purchases. Maybe I'm missing something but does your thinking presumes "build it and they will come" ? when the reality is that most people aren't interested, trusting of it, especially when their main culture disregards it . Being a black sheep is for the few, but yes the black sheep exist everywhere and in every culture. But IMO and based on tipping point theory, the only people anyone should be focused on helping are the black sheep, the few that already get it. From there critical mass builds and eventually tips the rest of them into following....since they will be following in all circumstances
I am looking at this from a developmental perspective, Which most people who are born in a developed economy can not appreciate. How do you explain something as technical as bitcoin to someone who doesn’t have running water or electricity? It’s not impossible, It’s just not profitable from a business perspective in the next 100 years. It’s easy to accumulate capital, Go change the world, Then I will be impressed. Maybe a Kolwesii peaker plant is a good place to start.
These are the most important issues the bitcoin “community” is facing. Central banks will use bitcoin to balance their budgets, So essentially building more layers of money technology is just wiping the asses of all the central banks that people in the “core” of the bitcoin “community” hate. The point of world changing technology is to help the most needy, Not to create another layer of an obsolete system that most people cannot comprehend.
I don’t know, Not give them technology? Usually the solution to a low I Q is education, And a MacBook is basically a 3000$ degree in whatever you can apply yourself to. Having the bitcoin to help these people who are living in extreme poverty so you can get rich is pretty much the definition of hypocrisy to me. Kind of like how central banks can just print money and you get to work for it? .1 BTC is a trip to the Congo and a laptop you could give someone. But you know, Bitcoin is all about self promotion and getting rich. Why bother helping poor people when you can shill another shitty ecash platform to preserve “privacy” in crypto? Fuck poor people I’m in the privileged technology class where we are all geniuses and extremely creative and attractive to all basic bitches that have never paid their own bills. I’m here to fuck!
El Salvador is for El Salvadorans. Gringo bitcoin grifters need not apply. I have visited 30 countries, Spent 1 year plus in three, And of that, At least 20 were developing countries. I invested in a Water purification, Solar electricity, And autonomous internet provider infrastructure startup, The CEO grew up in a Brazilian Favela in São Paulo. I studied sustainable development through Columbia University, And one of my favorite economists is Jeffrey Sachs, The professor of several of my classes at Columbia. It’s really just sad to see that bitcoin is basically just financially incentivizing more financial instruments, Instead of inspiring people coming out of the tech industry as they are replaced with neural networks to help clean up the mess left behind by The Federal Reserve and American Corporations. Everyone is concerned about getting rich instead of living a financial revolution. Bitcoin for Kolwesii. End generational poverty in the coltan trade!
Too many people are fat, lazy and unfortunately stupid not under the cage they are in. They could exit at any time but it’s easy to stay inside. Just like someone who has been in jail for 30’years and then given their freedom, they’d much rather be back on the inside, their structure and authority versus self reliance and responsibility. Nothing changes until fiat is destroyed.
Sometimes I ask myself If many of those physically unhealthy people sacrafize their health in Order to stay mentally healthy. Maybe they are and already live the happiest version of their lives. But I still think it is possible to move the needle with the younger generation. Mental health is a big deal with them and I feel like they are adopting health more than the older people. Maybe AI will help. Speaking to Chat-Gpt about your emotions is interesting and can be very helpful.
This hit hard. Especially the parallel between healthy living and healthy money. The truth is: real freedom demands responsibility — and most people aren't ready for that. But some are. And that’s enough to keep building. One step at a time. ⚡
It's unusual to find a reflection like this anywhere else. I loved the phrase: "Everything's amazing and nobody's happy." Bitcoin and Nostr make us devolve—in the best sense—back to the fundamentals of humanity: responsibility and gratitude. Our parents and grandparents understood this clearly in another generation. Everything became distorted over the years. Let’s return to first principles.
Plebbbbbbbbbbs! Take me further into the rabbit hole. I hear this song by @Man Like Kweks and am reading @Gigi (below).
Gigi's avatar Gigi
Some Thoughts on Adoption (and other nonsense). There's this old Louis C.K. clip—recorded long before he was cancelled—that summarizes our modern conundrum well: "Everything's amazing and nobody's happy." As I was walking towards the hospital today—after a way too early 5:30 rise—it dawned on me that wide-scale nostr adoption (and "proper" wide-scale bitcoin adoption, for that matter) is probably not going to happen. The good news is that it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The bad news is that lots of people will suffer. "Why so bearish?" I hear you ask. If you know me just a little bit you'll know that, even though I do have many faults, being bearish isn't one of them. I'm still incredibly optimistic when it comes to the adoption and proliferation of freedom tech. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing what I do. Here's what dawned on me, though: People aren't even interested in their own health, why would they be interested in healthy money? Yes, everyone wants to be healthy. But doing what is necessary to live a healthy lifestyle? Not interested. Not in the least. Usually something really really bad has to happen for people to change their ways. And even that doesn't move the needle in some cases, as plenty of drinkers who still drink after their liver gave up, or plenty a smoker who still smokes after being diagnosed with lung cancer can attest to. Which brings me to bitcoin treasury companies. Are most of them interested in taking the responsibility of holding their own keys? Are they interested in providing real value while staying humble and stacking sats? No, of course not. They are interested in paper gains, not in a full-blown reorientation that leads to a healthier lifestyle. And I mean that literally: if you truly and fully adopt bitcoin, the responsibility that is entailed by that will result in a reorientation, a re-alignment of values, which will—down the line—lead to more long-term thinking, healthier business practices, more honest value generation, and so on. To me, this is what "capital B" Bitcoin is about. Change. Real change. A ridiculous proposition to the balance sheet brain. ...which brings me to nostr. A short stroll through the current iteration of the internet should make clear that the platforms that most people spend their time on are incredibly mis-aligned with humanity. The outrage-machine that we've built for ourselves is keeping us like rats in Skinner boxes, hitting the dopamine button with every swipe and every scroll, no matter what. We've built a machine that is parasitic on humanity, instead of synergistic. We are optimizing for engagement, which means that we are maximizing addiction by shoving a mixture of uppers (porn) and downers (rage bait) down our collective throats. The machine is catering to our lowest selves, as opposed to our highest selves. (We could also optimize for the True, the Good, and the Beautiful, you know. Is that too much to ask?) But who is to blame for all of that? (And is it worth blaming someone in the first place?) It is clear to me that the whole military-grade industrial advertising complex that profits from running large-scale and nonstop psychological experiments on the whole fucking population of the earth wouldn't be profitable for long if we would all get our act together. But that won't happen, of course. There won't be a magical finger snap that suddenly shakes us awake from our slumber; that stops us from sleepwalking into dystopia. Just like there won't be a magical finger snap that stops us from our bad habits and unhealthy lifestyles. Adopting a healthy way of living is hard. It means saying no to the constant onslaught of sugary snacks, fast-food around every corner, and social pressures to indulge. It means taking responsibility for your decisions, cultivating discipline, taking care of your body, your psyche, and yes, also your soul. A wise man once said that "he who has a 'why' can bear almost any 'how'." And that's what most of us are missing: a strong enough "why." Why go through the trouble of living healthy? It's hard! Why hold your own keys, if someone else can do it for you, and there's even the apparent safety of some insurance? Why cultivate a less destructive relationship to the internet, if you can just autoplay & chill, whether it be with Netflix, YouTube, TikTok, PornHub, or something else? Why not write the snarky comment and trigger a whole cohort of people at the click of a button? Because it's not healthy, that's why. "Everything's amazing and nobody's happy." That's the state of the world. Always has been. And I'm to blame too, of course. Sitting in the hospital waiting room, writing these lines, bitching and moaning about the internet, this amazing series of tubes that I so love, warts and all. But yeah, the internet won't heal itself over night. Neither will the economy, nor the rent-seeking zombie companies that don't provide value, nor the underlying fiat system that broke it all in the first place. It will take lots of time, lots of courage, lots of faith, and lots of responsibility. It will be hard, but it will also be worth it. And it starts with you.
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Some people learn by modelling others. Tony Robbins called it "success leaves clues". Gary V called it "document, don't create". I didn't know other people woke up early until I saw Jocko share his 4 am watch photos on Twitter. Live an extraordinary life.
“People aren't even interested in their own health, why would they be interested in healthy money?” @Gigi Few… I think that in the same way a non productive person benefits from a hard money environment with quality going up and prices going down for ever, everyone will tendentially “passively” become healthier in a Bitcoin Standard, in all senses: cognitively, physically, spiritually. View quoted note →
Some Thoughts on Adoption (and other nonsense). There's this old Louis C.K. clip—recorded long before he was cancelled—that summarizes our modern conundrum well: "Everything's amazing and nobody's happy." As I was walking towards the hospital today—after a way too early 5:30 rise—it dawned on me that wide-scale nostr adoption (and "proper" wide-scale bitcoin adoption, for that matter) is probably not going to happen. The good news is that it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The bad news is that lots of people will suffer. "Why so bearish?" I hear you ask. If you know me just a little bit you'll know that, even though I do have many faults, being bearish isn't one of them. I'm still incredibly optimistic when it comes to the adoption and proliferation of freedom tech. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing what I do. Here's what dawned on me, though: People aren't even interested in their own health, why would they be interested in healthy money? Yes, everyone wants to be healthy. But doing what is necessary to live a healthy lifestyle? Not interested. Not in the least. Usually something really really bad has to happen for people to change their ways. And even that doesn't move the needle in some cases, as plenty of drinkers who still drink after their liver gave up, or plenty a smoker who still smokes after being diagnosed with lung cancer can attest to. Which brings me to bitcoin treasury companies. Are most of them interested in taking the responsibility of holding their own keys? Are they interested in providing real value while staying humble and stacking sats? No, of course not. They are interested in paper gains, not in a full-blown reorientation that leads to a healthier lifestyle. And I mean that literally: if you truly and fully adopt bitcoin, the responsibility that is entailed by that will result in a reorientation, a re-alignment of values, which will—down the line—lead to more long-term thinking, healthier business practices, more honest value generation, and so on. To me, this is what "capital B" Bitcoin is about. Change. Real change. A ridiculous proposition to the balance sheet brain. ...which brings me to nostr. A short stroll through the current iteration of the internet should make clear that the platforms that most people spend their time on are incredibly mis-aligned with humanity. The outrage-machine that we've built for ourselves is keeping us like rats in Skinner boxes, hitting the dopamine button with every swipe and every scroll, no matter what. We've built a machine that is parasitic on humanity, instead of synergistic. We are optimizing for engagement, which means that we are maximizing addiction by shoving a mixture of uppers (porn) and downers (rage bait) down our collective throats. The machine is catering to our lowest selves, as opposed to our highest selves. (We could also optimize for the True, the Good, and the Beautiful, you know. Is that too much to ask?) But who is to blame for all of that? (And is it worth blaming someone in the first place?) It is clear to me that the whole military-grade industrial advertising complex that profits from running large-scale and nonstop psychological experiments on the whole fucking population of the earth wouldn't be profitable for long if we would all get our act together. But that won't happen, of course. There won't be a magical finger snap that suddenly shakes us awake from our slumber; that stops us from sleepwalking into dystopia. Just like there won't be a magical finger snap that stops us from our bad habits and unhealthy lifestyles. Adopting a healthy way of living is hard. It means saying no to the constant onslaught of sugary snacks, fast-food around every corner, and social pressures to indulge. It means taking responsibility for your decisions, cultivating discipline, taking care of your body, your psyche, and yes, also your soul. A wise man once said that "he who has a 'why' can bear almost any 'how'." And that's what most of us are missing: a strong enough "why." Why go through the trouble of living healthy? It's hard! Why hold your own keys, if someone else can do it for you, and there's even the apparent safety of some insurance? Why cultivate a less destructive relationship to the internet, if you can just autoplay & chill, whether it be with Netflix, YouTube, TikTok, PornHub, or something else? Why not write the snarky comment and trigger a whole cohort of people at the click of a button? Because it's not healthy, that's why. "Everything's amazing and nobody's happy." That's the state of the world. Always has been. And I'm to blame too, of course. Sitting in the hospital waiting room, writing these lines, bitching and moaning about the internet, this amazing series of tubes that I so love, warts and all. But yeah, the internet won't heal itself over night. Neither will the economy, nor the rent-seeking zombie companies that don't provide value, nor the underlying fiat system that broke it all in the first place. It will take lots of time, lots of courage, lots of faith, and lots of responsibility. It will be hard, but it will also be worth it. And it starts with you.
"He who has a WHY can bear any HOW" That's why we're so proud of the work we do at The Refuge Network State here. 🤙 Our WHY is crystal clear - the seeking of all types of Refuge in a world struggling to reset. 🫂 FWIW, the internet is what brings all of us together, shows us the truth, allows us the fabrication of gems #Bitcoin or #Nostr, and now, our Network State. It allows us to see, feel, hear and know more than was ever possible - for that we are grateful. 🪙 We fucking LOVE the internet. Because just like 🔥 Fire 🔥 can cook food to feed your family, it can also burn down a house. So, do you blame the Fire itself, or the people using it? 💬 View quoted note →
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Why isn't it enough with this?
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Very curious but hard-to-answer asking. I want to see more reply. My opinion: The question why the internet is "good" in the sense that it advances human flourishing is very interesting. But, if it were specific to "internet", I don't think it is anything more or less than to empower individuals, by amplifying knowledge and collaboration. In the near future where AI and biotechnology evolve, humanity will have to answer the question, "What is life?". In the near future where developed countries fall down and geopolitics reaches a critical point, there might be a world war. It would be literally "telelogical" and "ontological". In there, we need a free, censorship-resistant, transactional internet where non-tampered information, free speech and people's money are circulating in order to express and collaborate on the free will of individuls. View quoted note →
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Thank you Gigi, I hope you and your loved ones are healthy or at least recovering. It took me a little while to realize the world isn't "broken" and with enough information or energy we could "fix" it. It's just people making choices. And you have to allow for people to make whatever choice they want. They may choose to stay sick and use fiat, or they might not. No one gets to make that choice but them. I do believe a lot of people are going to choose to be healthy and use healthy money, and for that I'm very bullish. But a large part of our society won't, and that's ok. As much as we want to save people from themselves it's not possible. You'll only injure yourself in the process. Be ready to give a reason for the hope you have, but do not go on the offensive and try to force it. Just build the future you want for yourself and encourage people to come along.
I think you have to adjust your filter. Look at it this way- for thousands of years, humans have been forced navigate systems that incentivized unethical and amoral action. For all this time, the winning strategy has been to cheat, deceive, manipulate, and coerce. What you should be thinking about is how amazing it is that a spark of understanding within us still lives: that the best path forward is through cooperation and collaboration, not coercion and corruption. If this side of us has been able to remain alive in the face of generations worth of systems that incentivized it's demise, I would say that it's actually pretty damned strong, and now that we have a system that actually incentivises moral action, I don't think it will be too long until the moral and the just will inherit the earth.
Bitcoin adoption will maybe happen but it will be in violence. All wide and large system like the fiat system can’t be stop peacefully because violence against people is the heart of his performance.