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in 2001, the bush admin used the fear of terrorism to trample over the rights of all americans in 2009, the obama admin used the fear of terrorism to trample over the rights of all americans in 2020, the trump admin used the fear of covid to trample over the rights of all americans in 2021, the biden admin used the fear of covid to trample over the rights of all americans today, the trump admin is using the fear of illegals and commies to trample over the rights of all americans

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Why should Americans have to compete with illegal immigrants for jobs and housing? In the housing market immigration of all kinds drives up prices. In the labor market immigrants force Americans to compete with the entire world. Why is that a good thing in your mind? How do these examples not directly infringe on the notion of America being a nation?
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Why should anyone in any country be forced to compete with immigrants/the world to get any job within their country? We don't need to compete. It doesn't benefit the citizens of the country. People are not interchangeable economic units. People are not just laborers. Please pitch to the lower economic third of any country that "prices going up is good for everyone" or how about pitch to the elderly living on fixed incomes that "prices going up is good for everyone" You're clearly a nihilist that thinks people don't matter.
The immigration debate is a complicated issue that intertwines legal & illegal immigration, the concern of cultural change, strain on the welfare system, the absurdly overcomplicated and expensive legal immigration process, the desire of native-borns to protect their jobs from competition, and a dozen other issues. Until people are willing to separate each of these concerns and address them one-by-one, we're not going to reach any form of clarity or consensus.
💯 This is a good example of why I have always liked you. It depresses me that so many people fall for the state's bullshit. All they want is a population that is both divided and afraid so they can keep us enslaved while we cheer for our own enslavement. The state should scare people much more than anything else.
The US is not an economic zone open to the world. The US is more than Wall Street or GDP. It has had its own culture and people. Economy uber alles has hollowed out the middle class, raised rents and real estate prices and other prices, imported people who don't give a shit about what Americans value (see 2nd Amendment). There must be limits on who comes here, like in the past. Biden let 20 million in,in 4 years (!) mostly no skills people who cannot speak or read English. These were cynically let in to game voting system. The illegals all have to go back. It's the law. If you don't like it then get the law changed. Look at Ireland - the Irish government is replacing the native Irish with africans, pakis and Indians. People need to wake up and understand what's going on.
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Communism reliies on compulsion, surveillance, punishment & central authority. It claims to be “rule by the people, for the people” Without individual rights, “the people” cannot consent. There is no mechanism to distinguish cooperation from obedience. The collective becomes an abstraction weaponised by those in power. The moment individual rights fade, "the people" becomes a mask for authority. Communism cannot operate without suppressing individual rights. "Fumbling some key liberties", is the Communist reset. Wake up Neo.
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Illegal immigration is already being used to trample the right of Americans. Allowing to people to live in your country that do not have permission to be there, while demanding changes in laws, demanding welfare benefits, allowing congressional representation based on populations of illegal immigrants, destroying the underlying cultural adhesion of Americans, calling Americans and Bigots when they oppose illegal immigration. If illegal immigration continues as it has been, it will destroy the United States of America. Tough times require tough decisions. People should read into Abraham Lincoln and all the rights that he suspended during the Civil War...
You are analyzing the narrative layer, but missing the structural risk. Fear is the mechanism used to implement Financial Repression. As the Sovereign Debt crisis accelerates, the state must capture all capital. The crackdown is not about safety. It is about solvency. Position yourself outside the blast radius.
I think you have it wrong. From a law and policy creation standpoint, which affects the entire country negatively for years, that last one isn’t at all in the same category as the others. And by the numbers illegals really do take more than they contribute. That’s a major danger on welfare programs—once you implement them it gives you the right and obligation to identify and surveil everyone to make sure those contributing get the benefit and that those who don’t aren’t stealing value they didn’t create. Instead those funds were weaponized by opening the boarders to help 25+ years worth of illegals to enter in 4 years. So that they could vote in states who don’t require id and to see chaos, to turn elections to then and grow socialist voter base and government… …to trample on the rights of Americans. How else would you rapidly reverse this without doing what ICE is doing? Anytime you have law enforcement you have bad cops and casualties but when a burglar enters your home do you give them carte blanche to take your property because “something tragic might happen” or do you fight back because something tragic is being already underway? Ps. Did you know that in the last year homicide, rape and robberies actually have plummeted?