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A truth I was surprised to discover: Most people want slavery. They just want to be comfortable. And the moment a little bit of freedom causes discomfort, they rush back to their cage. Then to delude themselves because they canโ€™t accept that reality, they label all things uncomfortable as โ€œslaveryโ€ and all things comfortable as โ€œfreedom.โ€ Convincing themselves that because their cage is โ€œnice and safe,โ€ this means they are actually free.

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I first learned of what youโ€™re talking about when I learned of the Christmas club. The mentality of this โ€ฆ how do you change these bad habits, the correct incentives, yes but itโ€™s so easy to deceive. Ai quick summary: The Christmas Club was first introduced by Pennsylvania banker Merkel Landis in 1909. It was marketed as a way for customers to save gradually for holiday spending, but in reality, it served the banks far more than the savers. Customers locked in small deposits all year, which the bank could lend out or invest, earning returns. If a customer needed their money early, theyโ€™d face penaltiesโ€”losing interest or paying fees. So banks got cheap, predictable capital, while customers got restricted access to their own funds and little to no real yield. It wasnโ€™t financial empowermentโ€”it was behavior control, wrapped in tinsel.
Biblical slavery was quite comfortable. The master who told you where to be in the morning and what to do was also the master responsible for housing you In the modern world we just separate the two masters as the corporation and the bank And then we spend all our time fretting about anything that can cause a mismatch between unemployment levels and mortgage delinquency rates
Yes, most people are natural followers, only a minority are natural leaders. An even smaller minority are neither. The flu psyop made this blatantly clear; perfectly normal, stable, nice people became rabid totalitarians overnight because the authorities told them to. That experiment in postmodern fascism would never have gone so far if most people were not sheep. Since then I've given up on any hope that the masses will wake up. As Seneca said: the majority is always wrong.
Having been there recently myself, I donโ€™t think anyone wats slavery but I agree that most people want a comfortable life and if they think that they have one itโ€™s a tough illusion to give up. Saylor has it right when he says that Bitcoin is for people who need it (I paraphrase).
most people cannot think deeply or clearly enough to even realize they are in this position. I'm having harder and harder time suffering in the company of fools who don't realize the depth of their delusions. And very few actually want to rethink everything in their life on a regular basis and deprogram themselves from centuries of indoctrination that anything above laws of physics is "just the way things are"
Saw the same connection this AM with a lady who informed about a bylaw that doesnโ€™t allow shirtless in public spaces which included the park I was at, of course shirtless. She told me all about the work she did with the police and how severe the bylaw violations were. She didnโ€™t answer why the bylaw was needed only she was informing to โ€˜save othersโ€™ from the bylaw. Iโ€™m fairly positive Iโ€™m a strong reason they wanted this shirtless bylaw nonsense. Dark day for my mitochondria.
You have no idea how right you are. I discovered this a long time ago too. People want someone to control them. They want to follow others. Very few are those who donโ€™t. Thatโ€™s the reason for fashion and everything people do. Most of them canโ€™t and donโ€™t want to take responsibility. Few are those who not only donโ€™t seek convenience but also stand up against the system, risking suffering for it.
I donโ€™t know why things have to be framed in such stark, extreme, judgemental terms. I would put it as, young people seek financial stability, especially if their parents are immigrants (or something like that). So they get the higher education, go to graduate school, and figure out that the jobs that you can get with higher education are not necessarily places of respect. But rent is a real thing. Itโ€™s like the main financial expense. In the US, a job is connected to health insurance. Thatโ€™s why I think some sort of passive income from investing should be available to everyone. Especially hourly wage workers, free-lancers, or people trying to do something creative. Currently, passive income through investing seems only possible for people with interest and knowledge in finance, *and* who also have the extra cash to invest.
this post is another one of those posts where the individual is blamed rather than looking at the macro thingsโ€ฆ like the societal systems. It also just vaguely describes the problem in a V for Vendetta way. I donโ€™t get why Lyn Alden reposted this, having written Broken Money.
Most people are still followers, which is actually fine in the context of choice and self responsibility. But in a bad system that creates contradictory incentives, the above reality causes terrible long term consequences. Itโ€™s basically true in either context, but in one environment, toxic incentives cause enormous suffering, while in another it enables strong standardization without hampering creativity and change. (I almost didnโ€™t respond because of your โ€œI canโ€™t believe Lyn Alden renoted thisโ€ remark. If you want to add a thought go ahead. But the moralization of casual social interaction and thinking out loud just comes off as entitled and holier-than-thou. Just a suggestion.)
You posted in the following style - โ€ฆ cartoonish (like Ren and Stimpy). This kind of post feels designed to provoke a reaction, not invite real dialogue. The replies are just a chorus of โ€œso trueโ€ from people who already agree, โ€ฆ whatโ€™s the point of having a convo in an echo chamber? comments section: bobbleheaded agreement bots and recycled slogans. This writing is โ€ฆ a synchronized yes-machine. Super vague, super polarized, and blaming of the individual with no context. So yeah I am very surprised Lyn reposted it with also no context. Who even knows what โ€˜groupโ€™ of people youโ€™re judging?
Freedom=Responsibility. The government made a business out of putting people who get too carried away with their โ€œfreedomโ€ in cages. It is normal and ok to have out of the box ideas, And this could be equated to โ€œfreedomโ€, However a better understanding in my experience is Competition vs rule of law. It is a blanket statement to try something unusual, Be condemned, And then say โ€œYou are impinging on my freedom!โ€ Being the victim. Nobody is coming to save you. The consequences of your โ€œfreedomโ€ is the responsibility you need to take or the government puts you in their cage. If you really want to do what you want become a politician and start putting your competitors in cages. Then you can have the freedom to do fuck all and enjoy it, Which is what I think most people of as freedom. My opinion is that freedom is the ability to create the life I want without anyone fucking with me about it, And this requires a constant ability for me to educate myself on what laws are and what I can and cannot do. There is always an asshole out there that wants to fuck your day up just because they donโ€™t like the way you look. And fuck them anyway.
why do young adults get jobs? They donโ€™t want to be a burden to their parents. Also, when their parents get older, they might need help. Itโ€™s harder for Millenials to purchase a house. Very few people, percentage-wise, can afford to invest large amounts into Bitcoin. If they can dollar cost average, itโ€™s slow and takes time. So it sounds like this post is creating some judgy narrative that whoever works at a job is someone who โ€œloves being a slaveโ€ and is โ€œscared of freedomโ€.
I have worked a government job and nearly all my coworkers were like this. They fear freedom and think slavery is freedom. Mind boggling!
Guy Swann's avatar Guy Swann
A truth I was surprised to discover: Most people want slavery. They just want to be comfortable. And the moment a little bit of freedom causes discomfort, they rush back to their cage. Then to delude themselves because they canโ€™t accept that reality, they label all things uncomfortable as โ€œslaveryโ€ and all things comfortable as โ€œfreedom.โ€ Convincing themselves that because their cage is โ€œnice and safe,โ€ this means they are actually free.
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When you say 'most people want slavery' I see a strong ambiguity wherein you may be implying both, but I'd like to touch on it. Do you mean people want to be slaves or they want the institution (albeit invisible) whereby they benefit from outsourced slave labor? Perhaps a mix of both to assist in their own self-delusion that you mentioned? I think most people want to be directed, not to be slaved. But given the stark reality of the choices available, they take the path of least resistance which is slavery. But to say they want the slavery seems disingenuous; they want the convenience and (often unwittingly) accept the slavery.
I've been thinking about slavery an awful lot... It almost seems like slavery is this unavoidable problem or quality of humanity on some level. If that is true, which is possible it might not be, then we need to be really careful about who or what we are slaves to. I'm being pretty broad, vague and general here on purpose so just keep in mind that I haven't thought too deeply about it. It's just a topic my mind has been returning to frequently. ๐Ÿค”
The most dangerous place to call home is your own โ€œcomfort zoneโ€ Just surviving paycheck to paycheck & using all your free time to watch Netflix should NEVER be the goal!!! Always push to Learn, Grow, & better yourself inshallah. #Bitcoin #HosKasi ๐Ÿซต๐Ÿพ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ด nevent1qqsqellr9pyjg5hgrz2rf8hz8axz9qczeyj3u5c2jxk2ap0hp3w22xqpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgjz9djw
Isnโ€™t this basically one of the biggest takeaway lessons from The Big Short? Free thinkers get laughed at even when theyโ€™re right. Most people do not possess the competence to roll solo so the idea of being ostracized by your โ€œin groupโ€ triggers life or death fight or flight considerations. People are more worried about fitting in than they are with finding truth. Solomon Asch figured that out.
Not likely: maybe single digit percent chance, because that would require taking personal responsibility for one's own life. It's clear worldwide that the Nanny State exists, because majority don't want the above, and prefer to pilfer others through the State. In other words:
Guy Swann's avatar Guy Swann
A truth I was surprised to discover: Most people want slavery. They just want to be comfortable. And the moment a little bit of freedom causes discomfort, they rush back to their cage. Then to delude themselves because they canโ€™t accept that reality, they label all things uncomfortable as โ€œslaveryโ€ and all things comfortable as โ€œfreedom.โ€ Convincing themselves that because their cage is โ€œnice and safe,โ€ this means they are actually free.
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Interesting to contemplate. Is freedom freedom from uncertainty? Then is is never attainable. Is freedom freedom from the fear of the unknown? Then how does one attain that? When everything is changing, and rushing ever faster into the unknown, uncertainty and the impossibility of knowing which way to turn is everywhere. If that is the case then where does clarity lie? If one can have a sense of clarity when the winds of change are blowing, and when change and uncertainty are everywhere, that clarity leads to a fearlessness which is free under all circumstances if it is truly free.
I kinda see them as the same thing really. Itโ€™s that valuing comfort above all and desiring to not have responsibility of their own lives, IS a form of seeking slavery. To seek freedom is the explicit decision to take responsibility for your own life. Most have simply equated freedom, because they see it as a desirable thing, with comfort and *lack* of responsibility, because thatโ€™s what they *really* want. They actually donโ€™t want freedom at all, they are running from it to avoid taking responsibility for their actions and situation. But arguably, either framing can be considered accurate, imo. Because freedom and responsibility are two sides of the same coin, and most people find comfort in avoiding the weight of responsibility.