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After a month of heavy use on iOS, I’m pretty conflicted about the current state of Nostr clients. From a product and UX perspective, three apps stand out: @primal , @Damus and @YakiHonne — but in a strangely inverted way. First, @primal : Widely used, well known, active on Nostr, many reviews and coverage on YouTube, its creators, @miljan and @paul keating are all behind it, super nice people. Yet: • Direct Messages are unreliable, especially cross-client • No built-in translation (a real adoption blocker beyond English) • UI is functional, but not visually appealing Then @YakiHonne : The opposite. Little known, few reviews, almost no coverage on YouTube, no visible developers or founder(s), only a Malaysian tech company in the background… JustHonne Technologies… with no CEO or any person behind it… Their website doesn’t link to real LinkedIn/X profiles, and YakiHonne isn’t even clearly presented as a flagship product. And yet: • The UI is beautiful • Customization is deep and thoughtful • Built-in translation works • DM relays and content relays can be finely controlled (read vs write) • Overall: it feels the most mature and carefully designed Now, @Damus sits between these two: There is a well known and well-respected developer behind it, @jb55 who not at least invented zapping ❤️ It offers many settings, features, and customization options, and translation works — which is a big plus for non-English users. However: • The UI is not visually appealing • The DM experience is still weak, cross-client messaging often fails here as well So the core contradiction remains: Why do the transparent, community-facing clients ( @primal and @Damus ) feel less refined in UX and messaging, while the most opaque one ( @YakiHonne ) has the best UX, features and customisation? Am I missing protocol constraints, historical reasons, or design trade-offs? Genuinely asking, and with respect for every dev behind these growing gems of Nostr social — I only would like to understand this better and help development. (I do leave test and bug reports on all the three clients’ github.) #asknostr image

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ios is not a freedom respecting platform, add to that the fact developers need to pay to publish their apps and follow arbitrary guidelines to get into apple's store it's in general not a good fit for freedom tech philosophically the apps that remain tend to be corporations who can pay (primal) cheers to the devs that put in the effort to reach those users though
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Thank you @Sedd , I really appreciate! Yes for me it’s essential to know who are the real people behind projects and creations. I know and I do respect that for most people on Nostr privacy (and anonymity) is of nr.1 importance. At the same time, the greatest power of Nostr is diversity, allowing all kinds of people being here. Keep up the amazing work!! I’m ready to volunteer more for the development of YakiHonne. I’m not a dev but I’m definitely a POWER user with fine sense for details and usability.
I have found @YakiHonne to be head and shoulders above the rest regards to UX / UI, customization, stability (a few crashes) and very importantly "customer service" from their devs @Moos @REDKAZ⚡️| YakiHonne @Sedd - they are quick to fix, open and transparent, happy to help and in this world - polite. Your "most mature" comment hits the nail on the head. In addition, I wholeheartedly believe the app and company will continually devlop and improve.