GM, BITCOIN IS MONEY.
IF IT ENDS UP BEING STORE OF VALUE AND NOTHING MORE, IT FAILS TO BE RELEVANT IN PEOPLE'S DAILY LIVES.
BITCOIN MUST BE USED FOR PAYMENTS TO STAY RELEVANT.
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GM, Uncle โ๐ซ๐
BITCOIN IS MONEY!๐ซก
We are brothers in trying to make payments happen but it's not looking good for us ๐ญ
Someone was talking about creating a wallet that calculates directly taxes for you, which is one the biggest friction for spending.
For example as if in Aqua wallet, when you peg it from btc to liquid, in that Moment it calculates taxes for you and then you spend the liquid whenever you want.
That would be amazing!
Where to start?๐ธ


everybody will spend bitcoin when its more widely stacked
Hold and Spendl are two sides of the same piece ๐
I'm convinced it's like that. That's how it is! But who uses them who is inside in bitcoin since 2015 that has now made a stratospheric gain. Not those who are trying to put one away with the savings of a lifetime.
I thought Bitcoin was a database.
UNCLE ROCKSTAR
GM, BITCOIN IS MONEY.
IF IT ENDS UP BEING STORE OF VALUE AND NOTHING MORE, IT FAILS TO BE RELEVANT IN PEOPLE'S DAILY LIVES.
BITCOIN MUST BE USED FOR PAYMENTS TO STAY RELEVANT.
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I'm convinced it's like that. That's how it is! But who uses them who is inside in bitcoin since 2015 that has now made a stratospheric gain. Not those who are trying to put one away with the savings of a lifetime. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
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GOOD MORNING, UNCLE โ๐
when I earn sats I spedn them. when I start to earn moar sats I shall have a fraction to save ๐
MORE P2P, LESS HODL #bitcoin
Someone was talking about creating a wallet that calculates directly taxes for you, which is one the biggest friction for spending.
For example as if in Aqua wallet, when you peg it from btc to liquid, in that Moment it calculates taxes for you and then you spend the liquid whenever you want
GM! I wonder why itโs taking Square so long to integrate Lightning invoices into their POS systems and allow Lightning payments from a dollar balance on Cash App. This should be standard. If a business doesnโt want Bitcoin, the payment could go through Lightning, and the owner would receive dollars. Similarly, Cash App users shouldnโt need to own Bitcoin to make Lightning payments, just like with Strike.
And still a Bitkey can't be purchased with bitcoin
UNCLE ROCKSTAR
GM, BITCOIN IS MONEY.
IF IT ENDS UP BEING STORE OF VALUE AND NOTHING MORE, IT FAILS TO BE RELEVANT IN PEOPLE'S DAILY LIVES.
BITCOIN MUST BE USED FOR PAYMENTS TO STAY RELEVANT.
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GOOD MORNING๐ค๏ธ
BITCOIN IS MONEY, UNCLE ๐ซ
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to play devil's advocate: has gold failed as a monetary good? it is not used in payments on a daily basis, and is most commonly thought of as SoV. i would strongly argue that gold has not "failed" by any means.
you know i love you and appreciate your work uncle!
but, i think that sometimes these "bitcoin fails if xyz" are reductive and subjective (ultimately)
Gold is failing now, exactly because it couldn't scale for payments.
My life may be a failure because it couldnโt scale for payments ๐ฌ
i guess the question really is: what do you mean by "failing"?
because in the past, gold used to back the USD (does that count as payments? one could argue it does). also, the price of gold has continued to rise over time...
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I think it's fair to say that gold is a monetary asset, but not *currency*. Nor is any currency tied to gold today. As the basis for an international monetary system, gold had its brief day in the sun, but government corrupts everything it touchesโฆ
to my mind, currency is a country-by-country standard
is bitcoin "currency"? i would argue that bitcoin and gold are in the same camp re currency, that being, relative to something else (i.e., usd)
i could pay a bitcoiner for goods/services with utxos, just like i could pay a goldbug for goods/services with gold coins. what is the difference?
I mean it as a response to your question: 'has gold failed as a monetary good?'
Gold worked up to a certain point of scale for payments, but it couldn't go beyond that. Sure, its price in fiat terms has risen over time - but if you held gold instead of Bitcoin, you missed out massively.
Maybe you're looking at it from the perspective that gold was a success for centuries - I can appreciate that.
But this also ties into the main point I'm making - if something comes along that's somewhat similar as store of value *and* is better for payments, that something will win.
ahhhhh yes yes, i see what you are getting at. you mean that bitty is currently outcompeting gold as SoV *and* has better MoE properties.
i agree with that.
my (semantical) argument was that gold technically has not failed, it is just NOT AS GOOD as ol bitty.
gg uncle ๐ค ๐ค
Governments (in particular the US Gov) removed our ability to use a money backed by Gold. They converted our Money from Gold and Silver coins to Paper Certificates, then removed the backing of that paper.
Do not let them do this again with CGT, ETFs and custodial solutions.
Bitcoin can be used as Money today, and in order to ensure it can be used as Money tomorrow, you should use it.
Better luck in the next life
ETFs and custodial solutions are going to exist because the market demands them, people like good UX and convenience
do you think that bitcoiners should not engage with usgov? i think advocating for what we want is a better play than pure subversion and antagonism
I think you should spend and use your Bitcoin in a peer to peer fashion.
thats a nice thought
GM, uncle โ๐ซก
GM SIR!๐ซก
No.
I, and many others, will hoard bitcoin to protect against future uncertainty. I will do this without permission.
This is using bitcoin.
I will work to AVOID force selling. This is the playbook until: 1) I get paid in bitcoin or 2) the producers of really good stuff refuse my fiat
- this will kick off the MOE era
GM, Uncle Rock ๐๐ค


GM #YESTR UNCLE ๐๐ซก
Are you winning, Uncle? ๐ค๐


Hold a bit & spend a bit = #Spendl ๐ค
Wise Uncle ๐ซก
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Gm Uncle
Make Bitcoin Money Again !
GM my Uncle โ๐ซ
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GOOD MORNING, UNCLE ๐คโค๏ธโ๐ฅ


โIrrevelanceโ ๐
Jack hosted kiddie porn on Twitter and he wants to do the same with the Bitcoin blockchain.
BCH is Bitcoin cash, or money.
Maybe we should, I don't know, resist the spammers then? dafuq? seriously, what the fuck? None of these people of influence willing to put pressure on core to resist the non-monetary use cases. Run Knots and talk shit to these people until they stop trusting core devs like it's a religion. frustrating. @Matthew Kratter & @npub1s5yq...6q7z cheers to you two.
SoV
MoE
UoA
Should be all 3, not one or the other or the other
Irreverence
Irrelevance
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I like because you say it not others
Zap is a great way to pay โก๏ธ
Gm fam
UNCLE ROCKSTAR
GM, BITCOIN IS MONEY.
IF IT ENDS UP BEING STORE OF VALUE AND NOTHING MORE, IT FAILS TO BE RELEVANT IN PEOPLE'S DAILY LIVES.
BITCOIN MUST BE USED FOR PAYMENTS TO STAY RELEVANT.
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How about savings account ! It is very relevant .. yet people spend from checking ..
Every Bitcoiner I know use bitcoin for payments.
Sorry but i agree with both view.
* For me bitcoin is nowadays buy by big investors and it means they will hold a lot of bitcoin they will use as an invest value, to sell it at a higher price.
I am not sure you will be able to pay little food ticket with the blockchain, of course you will be able to pay foods, but not the most tickets.
I think other payment will do it better than bitcoin (like lightning) and for cheaper fees.
So bitcoin will be used for some payment (more expensives ones) due to his fees, and this will not be better when miners will have only fees to "mine" and no rewards anymore.
* I also agree with the vision that bitcoin MUST stay a payment / store money value, and not a everything store blockchain.
It have to keep prioritizing payment on any other purpose, and there is no debate on this point.
If bitcoin became a shitcoin blockchain, it will be the end because investors will leave the chain (no more "value" to store or gain).
I also agree with some who say that if you allow to store everything like it is possible today, you can influence the payment time (by higher fees), and this is not acceptable.
The priority MUST always be the payment because it is his purpose and even his main value !
In some words, #bitcoin is for payment and to store "money" value for inverstors this is his main purpose. If you let some other things been store on the blockchain it will have to be "secured" enough to avoid any conflict with the main purpose (and it is not the case today). If you don't be careful about that point this will really be the death of bitcoin.
It is what all of you (each sides fighters) want ?
Bitcoin's the rebel currencyโhoard it, and it's just jewelry. Use it daily to flip off the fiat overlords. ๐
can someone explain to me why bitcoin will fail if it's not used for payments?
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How many lattes have you bought with gold?
Around 1% of global population owns Bitcoin. Itโs unrealistic to expect it to be a currency. It will happen but itโs going to take time. Meanwhile all we can do is make sure privacy is inbuilt and the infrastructure is there for when it does become a currency.
Bitcoin will be more than one thing. It's already a money in some places.
Hot take but why spend an appreciative asset, bitcoin, when I can save in it and spend a depreciative liability, fiat?
It makes more sense to spend bitcoin in a bitcoin world than in a fiat world.
