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I'm convinced it's like that. That's how it is! But who uses them who is inside in bitcoin since 2015 that has now made a stratospheric gain. Not those who are trying to put one away with the savings of a lifetime. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ nevent1qqs0cg9pnlng3any9cfk2vjsnse3h60cjagw2nppr9empjqpa5qwrpcpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhg6av6e7
I believe any currency flow and utilization depends on state acceptance and enforcement. Money flows from top-down, not bottom-up. A top-down strategy will boost Bitcoin's use as a currency. Many countries or communities should adopt Bitcoin through a top-down approach. A bottom-up strategy is a long game, only working if the masses accept it before the country; otherwise, it's hard. Either countries should start using Bitcoin, or Bitcoiners should build new countries and states. Otherwise, Bitcoin will remain a store of value and be used by big corporations for lending and making profits. ( Microstrategy, 21, Nakamoto corp ) Solutions: 1. We need more foundations like the Bitcoin Policy Institute to educate politicians and policy writers about Bitcoin. 2. Countries like El Salvador should test more utilization and enforcement strategies and set an example for others. 3. More network states should use Bitcoin as a transactional currency.
GM! I wonder why it’s taking Square so long to integrate Lightning invoices into their POS systems and allow Lightning payments from a dollar balance on Cash App. This should be standard. If a business doesn’t want Bitcoin, the payment could go through Lightning, and the owner would receive dollars. Similarly, Cash App users shouldn’t need to own Bitcoin to make Lightning payments, just like with Strike.
As I keep thinking about why making the #bitcoin circular economy is key for the change we are all in bitcoin for, I think it boils down to having your default currency of exchange, that which you work for and have to decide to spend to gain services and/or products, makes you value your time more now rather than later. For example, right now the default is to work for fiat and then take some of that fiat and save in bitcoin. The problem is that our default is still within the fiat dynamics and only that portion of our labor that we have saved into bitcoin is outside the sphere of influence. But that changes when we are operating completely under a bitcoin standard because the sphere of influence that we are now within, by default, is to value your labor first and secondly what you can acquire with that labor. This subtle change, as small and inconsequential as it might seem reflects a lot of engineering and design principles - from the 80/20 rule, to path of least resistance, to mindset modifications. So yes, look to learn how to spend your bitcoin - not your savings, but translate your spending budget to bitcoin and spend that for the services/products that you really need/value. Look for those merchants that have share your mindset - you will not only be helping a fellow bitcoiner that wants to see a better society like you, but most likely than not, you will be getting a higher quality product/service for your own labor spent. View quoted note β†’
to play devil's advocate: has gold failed as a monetary good? it is not used in payments on a daily basis, and is most commonly thought of as SoV. i would strongly argue that gold has not "failed" by any means. you know i love you and appreciate your work uncle! but, i think that sometimes these "bitcoin fails if xyz" are reductive and subjective (ultimately)
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I mean it as a response to your question: 'has gold failed as a monetary good?' Gold worked up to a certain point of scale for payments, but it couldn't go beyond that. Sure, its price in fiat terms has risen over time - but if you held gold instead of Bitcoin, you missed out massively. Maybe you're looking at it from the perspective that gold was a success for centuries - I can appreciate that. But this also ties into the main point I'm making - if something comes along that's somewhat similar as store of value *and* is better for payments, that something will win.
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Governments (in particular the US Gov) removed our ability to use a money backed by Gold. They converted our Money from Gold and Silver coins to Paper Certificates, then removed the backing of that paper. Do not let them do this again with CGT, ETFs and custodial solutions. Bitcoin can be used as Money today, and in order to ensure it can be used as Money tomorrow, you should use it.
No. I, and many others, will hoard bitcoin to protect against future uncertainty. I will do this without permission. This is using bitcoin. I will work to AVOID force selling. This is the playbook until: 1) I get paid in bitcoin or 2) the producers of really good stuff refuse my fiat - this will kick off the MOE era
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Sorry but i agree with both view. * For me bitcoin is nowadays buy by big investors and it means they will hold a lot of bitcoin they will use as an invest value, to sell it at a higher price. I am not sure you will be able to pay little food ticket with the blockchain, of course you will be able to pay foods, but not the most tickets. I think other payment will do it better than bitcoin (like lightning) and for cheaper fees. So bitcoin will be used for some payment (more expensives ones) due to his fees, and this will not be better when miners will have only fees to "mine" and no rewards anymore. * I also agree with the vision that bitcoin MUST stay a payment / store money value, and not a everything store blockchain. It have to keep prioritizing payment on any other purpose, and there is no debate on this point. If bitcoin became a shitcoin blockchain, it will be the end because investors will leave the chain (no more "value" to store or gain). I also agree with some who say that if you allow to store everything like it is possible today, you can influence the payment time (by higher fees), and this is not acceptable. The priority MUST always be the payment because it is his purpose and even his main value ! In some words, #bitcoin is for payment and to store "money" value for inverstors this is his main purpose. If you let some other things been store on the blockchain it will have to be "secured" enough to avoid any conflict with the main purpose (and it is not the case today). If you don't be careful about that point this will really be the death of bitcoin. It is what all of you (each sides fighters) want ?
Around 1% of global population owns Bitcoin. It’s unrealistic to expect it to be a currency. It will happen but it’s going to take time. Meanwhile all we can do is make sure privacy is inbuilt and the infrastructure is there for when it does become a currency.