Government officials often use “security” as an excuse to take your rights. They’ll increasingly say they need to surveil and control your communications and payments to keep people secure.
How about starting with the streets and trains and such? If they were actually serious about security more-so than control, they’d make sure that basic stuff is sorted out first.
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But what are rights? Where do they come from?
New thoughts I've been pondering, not trying to be antagonistic
There is no such thing, apart from God’s law.
How does “God’s law” secure e.g. property rights?
It's a 3rd party at very least that people may be able to agree on that's not force based. But again, what are rights? I think it's basically an entitlement
You have an independent mind and body, no one can take that away from you - you were born that way.
On that premise, what you create or earn is yours, and if it is within a society, it should be protected by society from others that might steal it.
Hence property is an inalienable human right, recognised by civilised society.
People can and do take it from others regularly though. Property isn't inalienable - right? People's lives and property are constantly alienated and exploited by others, I hate it personally, but what makes it "wrong"? Or what makes it a right in the first place?
What makes stealing property wrong is that it is detrimental to life. Life being the ‘standard’ of what is good (improves life) or evil (destroys life).
It harms the life of the individual who has lost their property and society overall as others decide not to create or own property on the basis it will only be taken from them.
Only civilised societies recognise this, essentially individualist capitalist societies. When this is not occurring, query the society you live in.
"Life being the ‘standard’ of what is good (improves life) or evil (destroys life)."
What makes this true?
For a living being, death is the end.
Drafts in Nostr are weird - anyway I don't understand where you're getting your oughts from. Why is life good? Like why are you optimizing for that? Isn't your why to that question because you like it? To be clear I like it too, but it boils down to preference, right?
Life or death is binary. So life is essential for being, therein not a preference.
In that context anything that strengthens that position (improves likelihood of life continuing) is good, as opposed the opposite.
It depends on each individual’s unique background, make up, and circumstances for what those things might be at any point in time.
Didn't you just swap "being" in for "life"? My why question still would apply to being.
What makes "being" good? Your preference?
Again on my side I think that's all I have to answer that question of what makes being good. I wish I had a stronger answer, but it seems preference based, not objective
Leave it with you to think further. Interested if you reach a solution.
I used ‘being’ only for explanatory reasons for what life is.
That’s what Trump is doing in DC and planning to do in other places. Politicians ain’t liking it.
- Also I’m just pointing it out. I neither support nor oppose these actions.
Lyn, this is too pragmatic for government 😄 It is logical and reasonable.
Solving more than 60% of murders would be a good start.
April 10, 2024.
"What we have learned is that the IRS has been using AI to access bank accounts of American citizens without any kind of a search warrant, or even without any specific claim that they have committed a crime."
"They have access to every single person's bank account...
This is the real reason why there's so many layoffs in the government.
We all know they use “security” as a political tool with zero intention of providing actual security
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“If they were actually serious about security more-so than control, they’d make sure that basic stuff is sorted out first.”
They most certainly are NOT 🤡🔫
(As Lyn implies)
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I was just in the airport yesterday and getting through security was annoying. I wish that if they’d take my rights, they’d at least provide a seamless experience
Isn’t this exactly what Trump et al are trying to do? Starting with trains and streets, but get fierce resistance from ”anti fascist” democrats as a response?
Absolutely agree.
Canada is rolling out online harms and cybersecurity legislation that risks fundamental rights under the banner of “security". The bills introduce sweeping government powers to monitor communications and potentially sanction platforms, but the definitions of harm and scope of surveillance remain dangerously vague.
Instead of focusing on physical safety in our communities and basic public infrastructure, lawmakers are prioritizing digital oversight, often at the expense of privacy and free expression.
Any legitimate security policy should start with transparency, judicial accountability, and respect for rights—not by handing unchecked authority to regulators.
I'll tell you an three easy solutions to make streets and trains more secure:
1. Repeal the Civil Rights Act
2. Privatize all public roads and public transportation
3. Allow open carry everywhere
If you lump some Native Americans in as enemies, you can just go back to the Wild Wild West.
That's not what I mean by repealing the CRA. I don't want Jim Crow laws coming back as much as the CRA. They are two sides of the same coin.
We need to reinstate freedom of association.
Well put Lyn. You have such an ability to explain finance and government in a way that most people understand. You also helped me Orange pill my buddy Ted. I’ll never forget the first time I saw you was on London Real. I was blown away by your simple explanations on Bitcoin and finance.
They never seem to fix the real problems, just use them as excuses to grab more power
Bingo!
GM
government is at it again
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Don't give them ideas. Too much CCTV as is.
Interestingly, the rate and forcefulness they say it also seems to correlate with how badly they have fucked the country's finances.
GM ☕
The brits are learning it the hard way
So true.
In the UK, if you have something stolen and you inform the police, all they will do is give you a crime number for your insurance claim. If you have a tracker on your stolen phone and you tell them exactly where it is, they won't even go and try to recover it.
But if you write some hurty words on Twitter and someone complains, then the police will be at your door in numbers ready to you record you as an offender, even if no crime has been committed. You will forever be listed as someone who has committed a 'non-crime hate incident'. You may be going for a job in the future where they run a police check on your details and you might not get the job. The record will not show what you did, just that you have offended someone!
I don't know for sure the reason for this situation, but it is likely the result of a bad incentive system. The police have quotas they they have to meet in order to measure their effectiveness. Going round to someone's house in order to reprimand them for exercising their right to free speech is much less likely to result in a violent situation against the police, than by trying to confront any real criminals.
The incentive system needs to change.
Control is the goal, governments are desperate.
And there's nothing more dangerous than a desperate government.
Being put on an offender list is for regular people, the ones that speak too loudly are "suicided".
In the UK, if you have something stolen and you inform the police, all they will do is give you a crime number for your insurance claim. If you have a tracker on your stolen phone and you tell them exactly where it is, they won't even go and try to recover it.
But if you write some hurty words on Twitter and someone complains, then the police will be at your door in numbers ready to you record you as an offender, even if no crime has been committed. You will forever be listed as someone who has committed a 'non-crime hate incident'. You may be going for a job in the future where they run a police check on your details and you might not get the job. The record will not show what you did, just that you have offended someone!
I don't know for sure the reason for this situation, but it is likely the result of a bad incentive system. The police have quotas they they have to meet in order to measure their effectiveness. Going round to someone's house in order to reprimand them for exercising their right to free speech is much less likely to result in a violent situation against the police, than by trying to confront any real criminals.
The incentive system needs to change.
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Because surveillience is cheaper, surely.
Old institutions must adapt or die.
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*Their security
They are worried about their security.
Lyn Alden
Government officials often use “security” as an excuse to take your rights. They’ll increasingly say they need to surveil and control your communications and payments to keep people secure.
How about starting with the streets and trains and such? If they were actually serious about security more-so than control, they’d make sure that basic stuff is sorted out first.
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Facts
First it was terrorism and 9/11, then it was women's rights and protecting children, then it was to eradicate rapists and pedophiles, now it is for eliminating ANTIFA.
We have to acknowledge that we are also contributing to this cycle, most of the time for ego and an ill-intended purpose. People think that if they give the government power, they will recieve victory against their enemies. Sure for a short time, but that's exactly what they are looking for.
Unfortunately, while technology has the capacity to enable, it has also allowed people to become more decadent and ignorant as to the most fundamental laws of nature we have obeyed even before the industrial revolution.
These laws are still here, we are just about to enter the "find out" phase.
Personally Id rather they create the whole social economic conditions that prevent people slipping into crime in the first place.
Cause streets and trains are like corrective and not preventive
Honestly, I stopped believing that governments care that much about security. They mostly want to keep people in fear so that they can be somewhat under control.
Especially now that communication bandwitldth is free and quasi infinite.
It doesn't matter what the fear is and if it is actually real or not or even purposely made up.
Viruses, Russians, robbers, migrants, terrorists, it's all good.
Also, fighting those fears allows to legally funnel public money to the friends of those in power.
1984, Covid, once you see the constant psyops, you can't unsee it.
@Lyn Alden is right, of course. But what if we turn this argument on its head? What if we use the cause of security to inject privacy back into the system?
The fact is that security REQUIRES privacy. And the system itself has real security problems. If we, by some sly means, gave the system an irresistible way to secure itself... and enabled privacy for all in the process... wouldn't that be the greatest reverse trojan horse of all?
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