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Government officials often use “security” as an excuse to take your rights. They’ll increasingly say they need to surveil and control your communications and payments to keep people secure. How about starting with the streets and trains and such? If they were actually serious about security more-so than control, they’d make sure that basic stuff is sorted out first.

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What makes stealing property wrong is that it is detrimental to life. Life being the ‘standard’ of what is good (improves life) or evil (destroys life). It harms the life of the individual who has lost their property and society overall as others decide not to create or own property on the basis it will only be taken from them. Only civilised societies recognise this, essentially individualist capitalist societies. When this is not occurring, query the society you live in.
April 10, 2024. "What we have learned is that the IRS has been using AI to access bank accounts of American citizens without any kind of a search warrant, or even without any specific claim that they have committed a crime." "They have access to every single person's bank account...
Absolutely agree. Canada is rolling out online harms and cybersecurity legislation that risks fundamental rights under the banner of “security". The bills introduce sweeping government powers to monitor communications and potentially sanction platforms, but the definitions of harm and scope of surveillance remain dangerously vague. Instead of focusing on physical safety in our communities and basic public infrastructure, lawmakers are prioritizing digital oversight, often at the expense of privacy and free expression. Any legitimate security policy should start with transparency, judicial accountability, and respect for rights—not by handing unchecked authority to regulators.
Well put Lyn. You have such an ability to explain finance and government in a way that most people understand. You also helped me Orange pill my buddy Ted. I’ll never forget the first time I saw you was on London Real. I was blown away by your simple explanations on Bitcoin and finance.
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So true. In the UK, if you have something stolen and you inform the police, all they will do is give you a crime number for your insurance claim. If you have a tracker on your stolen phone and you tell them exactly where it is, they won't even go and try to recover it. But if you write some hurty words on Twitter and someone complains, then the police will be at your door in numbers ready to you record you as an offender, even if no crime has been committed. You will forever be listed as someone who has committed a 'non-crime hate incident'. You may be going for a job in the future where they run a police check on your details and you might not get the job. The record will not show what you did, just that you have offended someone! I don't know for sure the reason for this situation, but it is likely the result of a bad incentive system. The police have quotas they they have to meet in order to measure their effectiveness. Going round to someone's house in order to reprimand them for exercising their right to free speech is much less likely to result in a violent situation against the police, than by trying to confront any real criminals. The incentive system needs to change.
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In the UK, if you have something stolen and you inform the police, all they will do is give you a crime number for your insurance claim. If you have a tracker on your stolen phone and you tell them exactly where it is, they won't even go and try to recover it. But if you write some hurty words on Twitter and someone complains, then the police will be at your door in numbers ready to you record you as an offender, even if no crime has been committed. You will forever be listed as someone who has committed a 'non-crime hate incident'. You may be going for a job in the future where they run a police check on your details and you might not get the job. The record will not show what you did, just that you have offended someone! I don't know for sure the reason for this situation, but it is likely the result of a bad incentive system. The police have quotas they they have to meet in order to measure their effectiveness. Going round to someone's house in order to reprimand them for exercising their right to free speech is much less likely to result in a violent situation against the police, than by trying to confront any real criminals. The incentive system needs to change. View quoted note →
*Their security They are worried about their security.
Lyn Alden's avatar Lyn Alden
Government officials often use “security” as an excuse to take your rights. They’ll increasingly say they need to surveil and control your communications and payments to keep people secure. How about starting with the streets and trains and such? If they were actually serious about security more-so than control, they’d make sure that basic stuff is sorted out first.
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Honestly, I stopped believing that governments care that much about security. They mostly want to keep people in fear so that they can be somewhat under control. Especially now that communication bandwitldth is free and quasi infinite. It doesn't matter what the fear is and if it is actually real or not or even purposely made up. Viruses, Russians, robbers, migrants, terrorists, it's all good. Also, fighting those fears allows to legally funnel public money to the friends of those in power. 1984, Covid, once you see the constant psyops, you can't unsee it.
@Lyn Alden is right, of course. But what if we turn this argument on its head? What if we use the cause of security to inject privacy back into the system? The fact is that security REQUIRES privacy. And the system itself has real security problems. If we, by some sly means, gave the system an irresistible way to secure itself... and enabled privacy for all in the process... wouldn't that be the greatest reverse trojan horse of all? View quoted note →