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Every young man should have a hard, dirty job in his late teens. Start at sixteen or seventeen during the summers. Shovel gravel. Haul lumber. Dig trenches. Stack crates in a warehouse or under a blazing sun. Work alongside other men. Get blisters. Get a tan. Bleed. Operate tools. Push through fatigue. Learn how to keep going when everything hurts. That kind of work recalibrates a young man. It teaches him how the world works. He learns how to manage risk. It humbles the ego. It strengthens the will. And when he later moves into more intellectual work, he’ll carry the weight of that discipline with him. He’ll be grounded in reality. He’ll respect the people who keep the world running. For blue-collar men, this work may become a permanent path. For others, it becomes part of their foundation. Either way, it builds the man. For women, the equivalent is care. Caring for children. Helping the elderly. Supporting a relative. Babysitting or assisting in a daycare. The act of nurturing life shapes them. It brings out their natural strength. It teaches patience, empathy, and the quiet endurance that holds families together. Both paths form the soul. One through hardship. One through love. image

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Im gonna have to disagree in part to the "women" part. Having been the older sister that babysat constantly, the older cousin that babysat constantly, the oldest grandchild that helped the grandparents AND great grandparents constantly, it did nothing to increase my patience once I became a mother. In fact, by the time I got to my own children I had far less patience than I would have had I just been allowed to grow and learn as a child and not a little adult because I was tired of being in charge of everyone else's everything.
I am sorry that you had that experience growing up. I also had a tremendous amount of responsibility placed on me from a very young age, and I can see how it could have led to resentment. It sounds to me like, instead of being given the opportunity to gradually develop your caring skills, you were simply dumped on, and that is very different. I understand what you are saying. I have spoken with other women who had similar experiences, where negligent parents placed an excessive burden of responsibility on them rather than gifting them just the right amount. I have seen the same dynamic with both men and women who were forced to work too many hours from a young age. It often created resentment toward work itself, because they were not able to enjoy its rewards, especially if the work was either futile or for a family business where they saw no personal benefit. Of course, there must be balance. By the time a person is around fourteen years old, most have a natural desire to be productive, to work and to contribute something to the family and to society. It is also completely normal to want to gain some advantage or benefit for ourselves from that work and to have some recreation as well.
I as a 7 year old child worked very hard, I laminated wood door panels, sprayed the doors at 11 PM so dad could get his contract done in the morning. When I turned 11 I one time gave my dad my time sheet with 1000 hours on it un paid. He nearly laid a brick, but fair is fair. He scrimped and paid the 3,500.00 in cash to me. It built me. tempered me. I learned the value of hard work, sweat and the principles of a deal. I had nothing given to me. Everything was earned. When I turned 16 I had my own horse, beehive, dog, car and was well on my way to manhood. Was it hard? yes. At time was I bitter? yes! But I am a far better man.
This kinda talk is being called segregation and toxic masculinity nowadays
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Every young man should have a hard, dirty job in his late teens. Start at sixteen or seventeen during the summers. Shovel gravel. Haul lumber. Dig trenches. Stack crates in a warehouse or under a blazing sun. Work alongside other men. Get blisters. Get a tan. Bleed. Operate tools. Push through fatigue. Learn how to keep going when everything hurts. That kind of work recalibrates a young man. It teaches him how the world works. He learns how to manage risk. It humbles the ego. It strengthens the will. And when he later moves into more intellectual work, he’ll carry the weight of that discipline with him. He’ll be grounded in reality. He’ll respect the people who keep the world running. For blue-collar men, this work may become a permanent path. For others, it becomes part of their foundation. Either way, it builds the man. For women, the equivalent is care. Caring for children. Helping the elderly. Supporting a relative. Babysitting or assisting in a daycare. The act of nurturing life shapes them. It brings out their natural strength. It teaches patience, empathy, and the quiet endurance that holds families together. Both paths form the soul. One through hardship. One through love. image
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Times are moving, changing , evolving. 1. We are in a world of broken minds. 2. Broken money. 3. Fake media, who spout false narratives . 4. Lying politicians. 5. A health industry who are dealers. Not healers. 6. An education system built for indoctrination, without parental consent. 7. A judicial system designed to protect the predators and punish the victims. 8. A government working hard to take control of every facet of a citizens life. 9. Critical thinking, challenging narratives squashed, replaced with twisted sick alternatives. 10. And banks that continue to launder money, sex trafficking , military arms deals, confiscation, account closures and toilet paper production . And you call yourself a ' Natural Law Senior Fellow'. Well hello there - I'm the village idiot. Your little note wants to keep the status quo - work 19,000 hours of a lifetime from age 18 - 65 - pay taxes, pay into a retirement fund ripe for looting and die happy. And in the meantime slot the female into a life of servitude. Give yourself a new title and come back with a better note.
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Yeah every young man should break his back and work himself to the bone so that someone else can profit from his Labour and he won't live as long that way. What great advice for people who want to be fucked and crippled before they turn 60
This is so true. I set power poles for a few years as I worked my way through college. I learned more setting the power poles than in college. In my 30’s I’m so thankful for those long hot summers as a young adult setting power poles in the middle of nowhere.
This sort of work started for me at 8, and it was to help support the family. I thought it was cruel at the time, but it taught me a lot and I appreciate my dad for instilling hard work skills, experience and ethics in me at such a young age.
And everyone should spend a few years in the service industry as well, waiting tables and sweating in a kitchen. It helps develop respect and compassion for when you’re a customer being served.