France is late stage empire. So is the UK. The purpose of empire is to maintain privilege for oligarchs. When it becomes cost prohibitive to take from outside the borders of the country, then they take from inside, which means impoverishing the populace and state infringement of their rights. The true purpose of democracy is to create a narrative that disarms the people, allowing the empire to grow tall if wide isn't an option.
Aristotle said that democracy is Rule by the Poor, since the poor are always larger in number than the rich, and the short-sighted, economic nonsense that the poor vote for leads to an increase in the number of the poor, who vote for the same nonsense...
Aristotle was a genius. Wasn't that Socrates, though? Idk, its crazy heavy reading
No, you were right, it was Aristotle. I guess I just think of him as the boat buoyancy guy with the laser tower.
i think the displacement guy was archimedes
Ohhhhhhh
Well shit. Lol
It is from The Politics, although he touches on it in The Rhetoric.
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therefore in a democracy the poor have more power than the rich, because there are more of them, and the will of the majority is supreme.
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i'm not sure that is correct, pretty sure ancient greek democracy was only for land owning men (the olympics too, men only)
The US equivalent are ex-Californians that moved to your state to get away from the crap in California, taking over your local government, then bringing in the same policies that made California shitty enough to move away from.
The proper response is, "Ah, screw it!" 😉
This. 💯
Well, sure, but I'm no gentleman, and I'm allergic to anything proper
That's a shame. I am a fan of gentlemen.
😂 me saying that is mostly internal narrative control. Its easier to be a gentleman, but it is always the least effective, whatever the goal is. So I try controlling my behavior by reinforcing stories
When vote counting is honest only.
Great point. They will always bite for more free stuff.
It was not only about land owning men but the taxes were according to income that had to do with land owning. The more you had the more you paid
Also, don't confuse what he considered the corrupted form (democracy), with the ideal form (polity).
He wasn't describing some particular state, in particular, he was describing cycles of government, in general.
That was Plato
Oh, really? I've read both. Might be mixing them up.
yeah, The Republic i'm pretty sure it criticises democracy. harshly.