failed to secure grant funding for a big part of damus android. Is vc inevitable? ๐ will keep trying elsewhere.
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Sorry to hear that. What sort of mechanisms for ROI could Damus Android provide to VCs? Premium subscription of sorted for gated features? What would be its value proposition over other Nostr android clients?
No crowdfunding? Seems like an untapped resource. Identify something you only get as a sponsor, like "new features" are held back a month.
Sorry to hear that. If you need me to buy an Android mascot suit and dance around to raise money, I will.
Always willing to go the extra mile ๐๐คฃ๐ซ
I gotchu. ๐ซ๐
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Would you *really* take the vc route even with 0 funding from elsewhere?
@ODELL this sounds like something OpenSats deals with. Now I'd never volunteer money what's not my own but I'm sure they would be able to point a dev in the right direction
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Will double my efforts to look for ways for damus to be profitable. Grant funding is not sustainable or reliable. It is very likely that Damus will fail down this route, but I need to try. The only way for damus to be independent is to be powered by our users.
LFG! ๐ช
I was listening to a podcast last night which interviewed a film maker who has made two films which broke records, pissed off the studio systems, and were entirely crowd funded. They started a group level where you pay a small amount per month to see early footage, and vote on the direction of what is being shot.
Seems like something of this nature might be worth exploring.
When damus subscription with cool additional features ๐ค
Will just gotta drop the Damuscoin ICO/IEO and let it moon. VCs will lose their minds. ๐
Can we maybe consider a subscription model like patrion with Apple Pay option if required? Maybe that will open other options and note zaps? Like maybe $1 a month is probably very affordable for many and include the relay with notifications, etc. ๐ถ๐พ๐ซก
I like one-time purchase fee for tools. Then never update the original tool and make another tool for another one time purchase fee.
iOS folks with zaps enabled are able to do the % donation, is there a certain percentage that would get you there?
It only comes out to $30 a day and its decreasing
loool *chef kiss*
Advertising or user fees or both.
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What about a model where you add a new feat and only make it open source once your funding goal for the feat is paid?
What features do you want in it?
Are you:
- on GitHub sponsorships?
- on Patreon or something similar? Donโt be above taking fiat, you can always convert it to corn.
- what happened to the Damus Purple plan? Would you be willing to accept payment through App/Play Store?
I'm an andriod user currently, I would definitely try Damus Andriod.
How about a crowdfunding campaign for that amount that resets every day or every week?
Charge us an annual fee. Happy to pay.
How do I turn on the % donation?
Zap splits in profile setup and on the main drop down profile page would help a lot. I support you on my own, so choose not to do zap splits, but itโs a bit of a chore for a non-technical user. I know there are technical issues with this, but just a suggestion.
Me too
Doggo gets it
Yes. Many ways to do it, from subscription model, new (paid) themes/skins, additional features to taxed zaps or zaps to buy with credit card. I Always hated the (optional) zap tax, too fiat for me. Zapped you classic instead. Damus Team doesnโt disappoint. Cannot wait for #textonly mode some day ๐ค Much love man.
Yikes. No Shitcoins.
Please charge us ๐
I second this sentiment. Iโve been saying it from the beginning, I will pay a subscription. Iโll ride shotgun on this bitch, Will. Or on the roof. Really, just squeeze me in somewhere.
Iโll pay as long as I can pay in sats
Agreed lol. Hopefully, nobody thought it was serious. Should've added /s
@jb55 , making participation in a free market place to trade services or products to everyday users might generate revenue?
Notes storage so jb will not be nuking some notes for example๐ Stories, animated stickers, animated status icons, dm group chats.
Have you considered nostrocket?
Ideas, work towards allowing polls on damus then crowd source ideas for that self-sustaining profit. At the very least people will be more apt to go along with it if they have a hand in forming it.
I would be happy to pay for a subscription at #damus itโs really worth it and Iโm completely convinced of it.
Do a cheese fund raiser once a quarter like Wikipedia.
Maybe form a nonprofit and get on some charitable trust donation lists? They are required to donate a percentage of the total asset base every year.
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this is a reference to Angel Studios I believe
You go to Wallet in the settings.
All zaps route through your channel and scrape fees on the way through.
Idea:
1. Determine monthly cost.
2. Divide cost by # users.
3. App generates each user a donation request for their share each month.
4. As users increase, request amounts decrease, improving chances of them being funded.
5. Break even? (:
This one.
Or we donate to you sir
We all must work and help you
Same.
Why aren't you using Flutter so that you can build for web, iOS and Android?
what is grand vision/biz model? is android critical to that success?
join forces with @simplex ?
VC is not inevitable. Don't feel down about it @jb55 we're trying one of the most difficult ways... we're doing our best and we'll keep at it! You're not alone in this fren ๐ซ๐
Receiving VC funding is not so bad.
Itโs on par with selling your sole to the devil, but not always ๐ถ๐พ๐ซ
Pretty much every tech founder does VC seed rounds nowadays. I guess what I meant is that itโs not uncommon to go via the VC way.
Good point. It is an option for sure ๐ถ๐พ๐ซ
VC will likely severely undermine nostr's mission and principles
Facebook did pretty well since it went public.
Maybe next time.
How rude ๐ค
ask the users to pay
![[ARCHIVED] Jay's avatar](https://i.nostr.build/9NquibWjyPXiz2Q4.png){kind=small}
Premium client-side features that are free if you sideload.
Did you apply to @OpenSats?
I'm gonna lean out and casually tag @jack here....
fiat subs probably the easiest way. unfortunately bitcoin subs don't auto renew ;(
or... fortunately? haha.
There's no auto subs for a human. Maybe u are talking about subs for bots ?
Here in Brazil, the new government is trying to push a new tax on people who produce content on the internet. It would be fantastic to replace platforms like Onlyfans (or Privacy.com.br, an OF alternative very popular here).
There is a market for a premium, polished, and easy-to-use multiplatform app to monetize digital content(and use Bitcoin to cut credit card and government). You get a tiny little slice of the pie.
If I had your skills, Will, I would work on that.
The grant grind is the worst. :( Which team did you submit to? Your work is innovative and I feel like thereโs definitely a few philanthropists that would be in your corner sans the vc route
send sats nostriches...
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Innovation is the way to go in this path.
Will damus meet the goal of a vc company ?
Maybe itโs time to move past the startup phase and launch a paid service? You offer a service, charge a fee.
All the other social apps went through this and they only came up with 3 funding models: subscription, ads, or collect everyoneโs data and sell it.
NO! I would highly advise AGAINST getting involved with evil corporate overlords (vc), most of them who are greedy, unethical and only care about profits.
Perhaps, ๐พSerena Williamโs Very Tall Husby Alexis Ohanian could help you or have some good ideas!
Surely, you must know someone who has LOTS of money and a person of Integrity, Honesty & Quality?