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We deal in security and we'll help anyone secure valuable assets if there is sufficient demand for our services.

"We'll help anyone secure valuable assets" This post provides 0 explanation for why you offer ETH services.

Because we have clients who pay us to help them self custody tokens issued on that network. Stablecoins are by far the biggest driver of demand. Is that a simple enough explanation?

That was mostly just for the laugh obviously. Serious point, though keep in mind I read screenshots and not the entire exchange. I'm in it for the revolution. As an outsider to your thoughts who is in it for the revolution... Taking payments to handle ETH and stablecoins as well as taking money from NFT people looks an awful lot like NGU prioritized over the revolution. I value some of the research you've done. I agree with you that attempting to filter arbitrary data from blocks is ultimately impossible, and I don't filter on my node or miners. I follow you here, but I always think a little harder before deciding my position about what you posted because I question your core drive. Your decisions that look like NGU over the revolution deserve to be side eyed by the revolution first crowd. The revolution first crowd should be allowed to share that context around your decisions so that others can make the most informed decision. For someone of your position in the community, people look to you. We can't all make fully informed fully technical decisions. You know this and this is why you share your opinions. Context of your other professional bitcoin and crypto decisions isn't slander if it is true. It is valuable information that helps the rest of us make sense of what thinking brought you to your decision. Trying to limit where people can share truthful context about you falls into the this guy kinda looks like a NGU first bucket to me. I like dedicated and helpful researcher Loop a lot more than NGU Lopp.

Your final paragraph sheds light on the misunderstanding. I'm not claiming anyone is slandering me nor am I silencing anyone; my investments are publicly disclosed at

Jameson Lopp :: Angel Investor

Jameson Lopp: cypherpunk, co-founder & CTO of Casa, Bitcoin proponent

The moderation on Bitcoin Core pull requests is their WRITTEN POLICY, not mine. Rule #2: "Comments will be about ideas, not people." 📃.md

Convenient to have that policy to stand behind. You have to admit the line between about the person and about the PR is a little blurry when your personal investments stand to go up significantly if your PR is merged. Who made the call on that shade of gray, you or a 3rd party?

#btcfail

Nonsense. #Bitcoin has been attacked left and right and has always won. An attack does not mean its failing. Its getting even stronger. Study #Bitcoin's history.

The profit from arbitrary data on Bitcoin seems to have dropped to SFA going by the near empty mempool, so does it matter?

Which is exactly why you should focus on ideas rather than upon people.

Yes. As a non contributed to code. It is a little unsettling to hear ppl talk of "attacks" on Bitcoin.. Maybe they just want cheaper SATs, maybe they just want Bitcoin to act in a specific way, or not change..

Bitcoin is for everyone. Expect bad actors to be attracted to the space.

We’re social beings, Jameson. That is much easier said than done. Anyway, in this vein, should the idea that an idea might have special consideration because of possible financial circumstances be verboten?

This is the equivalent of saying, “by the way all of my investments are in my desk drawer at home, no one bothered to look.” You are trying to change Bitcoin in a way that directly benefits a company you have equity in. That should be at the top of the GitHub thread. A classic case of “Bitcoin is broken, quick let’s implement a change that will benefit me personally!”

It's a laughable claim. My investment in Citrea is a rounding error relative to my BTC. Harming Bitcoin in order to help Citrea would be an insane decision on my part.

You’ve done stranger things

I'm not attacking you, I'm highlighting the conflict of interest as it's relevant to the discussion.

That seemed like a perfectly legitimate response. You should be able to prove your point without banning the people speaking against it. But since you can't do that here: fuck you you moralizing prick.

It's not relevant because my interests are irrelevant to the discussion. "I like this proposal" is not an argument with any merit, and thus I don't make such statements. Rather, the question is how we anticipate ~any number of entities~ to use block space for their desired data anchoring objectives given the constraints imposed upon them.

Did you invest in Citrea before or after you knew they were creating unspendable taproot outputs?

I'm not a Bitcoin Core moderator and I had nothing to do with their actions. 🤷🏻

So why remove the option? Just let the users choose for themselves

I suspect the common answer you'd get is that the option is ultimately irrelevant and the data will arrive in blocks regardless.

Fine, but what's the problem with leaving it in?

This is literally discussed in the PR you can read for yourself.

You are not against the block either. "You got blocked because you should attack ideas rather than people." Since when revealing a conflict of interest is personal attack?

There is no way to verify this claim, is there? “Harming” bitcoin means different things to different people. The big blockers didn’t think they were harming bitcoin

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gas light somewhere else you con artist

TLDR man just say it here for the eyeballs

What becuae it's easily bypassed? That doesn't explain what the harm is in leaving it in

A conflict of interest implies that changing the OP_RETURN policy would somehow make my Citea investment worth more. I'd love for someone to explain how that would happen. Citrea's bridge will function regardless of how they anchor the data in the blockchain.

If the policy change results in enhanced scalability and cost-efficiency, this would boost Citrea’s appeal for DeFi and smart contract applications.

Can’t, I’m blocked

So why are you making insane decisions?

I'm not. No one has been able to demonstrate that arbitrary data in OP_RETURNs is more harmful than arbitrary data in witnesses.

It definitely has nothing to do with money and power of course

looking at the above screenshot alone, but it isnt an attack or anything that makes banning BM ok.

how was that an attack on a person?

Ohh dear....

Kindly and respectfully fork off then and see how it goes.

All arbitrary data harms Bitcoin

A lot of people are voicing their concerns and your answer is to silence them and move goal posts. Why don’t you just fork off and go play dick butt somewhere else?

You sound confused. I'm not a Bitcoin Core moderator.

Such as Bible verses amirite?

Has no comeback Defaults to ad hominem attack Totally not a bad faith actor

Pointing out hypocrisy is definitely a comeback 😆

Not your best work I hope the irony of you ignorantly insulting someone’s religion when you complain about ignorant comments opposing the PR is not lost on you

Whoa now, I'm not ignorant of Christianity - I have 18 years of deep involvement!

Who locked the thread to contributors only?

deflect, deflect, deflect.

Here is a core dev who suggested limiting the discussion to code contributers only. That means for him community has no voice ...

/EclipseMC: What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?

I don't think you've demonstrated how storing jpegs on my node improves bitcoin's use as money

this was more than 10 years ago, some people learn from their failures others don't

Weren’t the Bible verses in the coinbase transaction? This is a genuine question and not an attack.

Fuck off, get a real job

Fuck off, get a real job.

Again, please fuck off scammer. Do something useful

And we have #Nostr now.

100% agree. How did we end up screaming into the void about decentralization but letting some group of people restricting us from having a voice in this matter.

Yeah, welcome to "freedom"* You might as well just use monero at this point. At least you get privacy and good gains over there.

That's a totally separate issue.