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PSA: The functionality of multiple Fedimint federations is significantly degraded due to severe DNS issues. It seems to be the case that some federation guardians have an XYZ domain that the DNS registrar has taken over. Freedom One and Bitcoin Principals appear to have one guardian offline due to this. Unfortunately, despite the server and keys for these guardians being intact, there is no way for the DNS of a guardian to be swapped out after the fact. We became aware of this issue last week and then became aware that multiple federations are experiencing this:
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Swap out a guardian's DNS Β· Issue #5482 Β· fedimint/fedimint
Without the ability to swap out a guardian's DNS, all federations are dependent upon DNS registrars. I have already seen a guardian's domain be unr...
 Given the critical state of these federations, with one guardian out of four being permanently offline, it's essential that if you have funds in these federations, you should withdraw them immediately. Unfortunately, we're unaware of other public federations, so you must withdraw to another lightning or on-chain wallet. From our experiences, intermittent/connectivity issues can occur with guardians, and this may result in errors if not all three remaining guardians are consistently online. No other guardian of these federations has XYZ or other domains like it. So, if you're having issues, please try again later. Unfortunately, not much can be done on the Mutiny side, so we're removing the federation setup flow in the UI as a first step. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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People look at this and see nothing wrong with using DNS-based image urls or url-based relay hints inside our posts. They are never going to come after our content, right? Riiight?
User's avatar npub1mutn...23vg
PSA: The functionality of multiple Fedimint federations is significantly degraded due to severe DNS issues. It seems to be the case that some federation guardians have an XYZ domain that the DNS registrar has taken over. Freedom One and Bitcoin Principals appear to have one guardian offline due to this. Unfortunately, despite the server and keys for these guardians being intact, there is no way for the DNS of a guardian to be swapped out after the fact. We became aware of this issue last week and then became aware that multiple federations are experiencing this:
GitHub
Swap out a guardian's DNS Β· Issue #5482 Β· fedimint/fedimint
Without the ability to swap out a guardian's DNS, all federations are dependent upon DNS registrars. I have already seen a guardian's domain be unr...
 Given the critical state of these federations, with one guardian out of four being permanently offline, it's essential that if you have funds in these federations, you should withdraw them immediately. Unfortunately, we're unaware of other public federations, so you must withdraw to another lightning or on-chain wallet. From our experiences, intermittent/connectivity issues can occur with guardians, and this may result in errors if not all three remaining guardians are consistently online. No other guardian of these federations has XYZ or other domains like it. So, if you're having issues, please try again later. Unfortunately, not much can be done on the Mutiny side, so we're removing the federation setup flow in the UI as a first step. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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l think I just lost about 100K #sats @npub1mutn...23vg #federations be careful #nostrplebs out there 😐 #bitcoin #nostr
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PSA: The functionality of multiple Fedimint federations is significantly degraded due to severe DNS issues. It seems to be the case that some federation guardians have an XYZ domain that the DNS registrar has taken over. Freedom One and Bitcoin Principals appear to have one guardian offline due to this. Unfortunately, despite the server and keys for these guardians being intact, there is no way for the DNS of a guardian to be swapped out after the fact. We became aware of this issue last week and then became aware that multiple federations are experiencing this:
GitHub
Swap out a guardian's DNS Β· Issue #5482 Β· fedimint/fedimint
Without the ability to swap out a guardian's DNS, all federations are dependent upon DNS registrars. I have already seen a guardian's domain be unr...
 Given the critical state of these federations, with one guardian out of four being permanently offline, it's essential that if you have funds in these federations, you should withdraw them immediately. Unfortunately, we're unaware of other public federations, so you must withdraw to another lightning or on-chain wallet. From our experiences, intermittent/connectivity issues can occur with guardians, and this may result in errors if not all three remaining guardians are consistently online. No other guardian of these federations has XYZ or other domains like it. So, if you're having issues, please try again later. Unfortunately, not much can be done on the Mutiny side, so we're removing the federation setup flow in the UI as a first step. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Ouch
User's avatar npub1mutn...23vg
PSA: The functionality of multiple Fedimint federations is significantly degraded due to severe DNS issues. It seems to be the case that some federation guardians have an XYZ domain that the DNS registrar has taken over. Freedom One and Bitcoin Principals appear to have one guardian offline due to this. Unfortunately, despite the server and keys for these guardians being intact, there is no way for the DNS of a guardian to be swapped out after the fact. We became aware of this issue last week and then became aware that multiple federations are experiencing this:
GitHub
Swap out a guardian's DNS Β· Issue #5482 Β· fedimint/fedimint
Without the ability to swap out a guardian's DNS, all federations are dependent upon DNS registrars. I have already seen a guardian's domain be unr...
 Given the critical state of these federations, with one guardian out of four being permanently offline, it's essential that if you have funds in these federations, you should withdraw them immediately. Unfortunately, we're unaware of other public federations, so you must withdraw to another lightning or on-chain wallet. From our experiences, intermittent/connectivity issues can occur with guardians, and this may result in errors if not all three remaining guardians are consistently online. No other guardian of these federations has XYZ or other domains like it. So, if you're having issues, please try again later. Unfortunately, not much can be done on the Mutiny side, so we're removing the federation setup flow in the UI as a first step. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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↩ replying to npub1mutn...23vg
The problem is, if you don't already have a channel, you're stuck. Mutiny is automatically transferring all on-chain transactions to the federation, not to the wallet on-chain address. Is it supposed to work that way? This has happened to me twice already. I now have ~500k stuck in the freedom one federation, and I cannot create a channel because my on-chain balance is too low. Also, your recent patch doesn't seem to work when you select the option to send to another wallet. The confirm send button is muted and doesn't do anything. Here's a recording taken a few days ago:
↩ replying to Max
Maybe I'm naive, but I feel like keys both private and public are circulating enough to feel normalised. A generation or two and we'll all just use public keys and hash identifiers. We'll have local directories of them in our phones. Then we'll use a peer to peer discovery network to find each other (keet) and all will be well with the world. Maybe advertisers will put qr codes or something else alongside their ads with public keys for their websites. Maybe I'm having a heat stroke.
An update to our apps have been made that should help performance when a single fedimint guardian is down. Please continue withdrawing out of the Freedom One and Bitcoin Principals federation. The LN gateways might be experiencing heavy load so try on chain if you need to. Getting plenty of reports of successful withdraws so far today, try again if you had issues before. The fedimint team is working on short and long term solutions but for now it's best to withdraw and remove the federations. We have turned off lightning addresses for now too. Sorry for the issues.
User's avatar npub1mutn...23vg
PSA: The functionality of multiple Fedimint federations is significantly degraded due to severe DNS issues. It seems to be the case that some federation guardians have an XYZ domain that the DNS registrar has taken over. Freedom One and Bitcoin Principals appear to have one guardian offline due to this. Unfortunately, despite the server and keys for these guardians being intact, there is no way for the DNS of a guardian to be swapped out after the fact. We became aware of this issue last week and then became aware that multiple federations are experiencing this:
GitHub
Swap out a guardian's DNS Β· Issue #5482 Β· fedimint/fedimint
Without the ability to swap out a guardian's DNS, all federations are dependent upon DNS registrars. I have already seen a guardian's domain be unr...
 Given the critical state of these federations, with one guardian out of four being permanently offline, it's essential that if you have funds in these federations, you should withdraw them immediately. Unfortunately, we're unaware of other public federations, so you must withdraw to another lightning or on-chain wallet. From our experiences, intermittent/connectivity issues can occur with guardians, and this may result in errors if not all three remaining guardians are consistently online. No other guardian of these federations has XYZ or other domains like it. So, if you're having issues, please try again later. Unfortunately, not much can be done on the Mutiny side, so we're removing the federation setup flow in the UI as a first step. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Still having this problem. Is it fixed?
User's avatar npub1mutn...23vg
PSA: The functionality of multiple Fedimint federations is significantly degraded due to severe DNS issues. It seems to be the case that some federation guardians have an XYZ domain that the DNS registrar has taken over. Freedom One and Bitcoin Principals appear to have one guardian offline due to this. Unfortunately, despite the server and keys for these guardians being intact, there is no way for the DNS of a guardian to be swapped out after the fact. We became aware of this issue last week and then became aware that multiple federations are experiencing this:
GitHub
Swap out a guardian's DNS Β· Issue #5482 Β· fedimint/fedimint
Without the ability to swap out a guardian's DNS, all federations are dependent upon DNS registrars. I have already seen a guardian's domain be unr...
 Given the critical state of these federations, with one guardian out of four being permanently offline, it's essential that if you have funds in these federations, you should withdraw them immediately. Unfortunately, we're unaware of other public federations, so you must withdraw to another lightning or on-chain wallet. From our experiences, intermittent/connectivity issues can occur with guardians, and this may result in errors if not all three remaining guardians are consistently online. No other guardian of these federations has XYZ or other domains like it. So, if you're having issues, please try again later. Unfortunately, not much can be done on the Mutiny side, so we're removing the federation setup flow in the UI as a first step. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Update: A small hotfix has been deployed restoring connectivity to all known federation guardians with this issue. A longer term fix is in progress and will probably be in the next major fedimint release. Huge thanks to the team there! Remember, fedimint is still early but still very promising. We thank everyone testing out this software and providing feedback and patience πŸ™
User's avatar npub1mutn...23vg
PSA: The functionality of multiple Fedimint federations is significantly degraded due to severe DNS issues. It seems to be the case that some federation guardians have an XYZ domain that the DNS registrar has taken over. Freedom One and Bitcoin Principals appear to have one guardian offline due to this. Unfortunately, despite the server and keys for these guardians being intact, there is no way for the DNS of a guardian to be swapped out after the fact. We became aware of this issue last week and then became aware that multiple federations are experiencing this:
GitHub
Swap out a guardian's DNS Β· Issue #5482 Β· fedimint/fedimint
Without the ability to swap out a guardian's DNS, all federations are dependent upon DNS registrars. I have already seen a guardian's domain be unr...
 Given the critical state of these federations, with one guardian out of four being permanently offline, it's essential that if you have funds in these federations, you should withdraw them immediately. Unfortunately, we're unaware of other public federations, so you must withdraw to another lightning or on-chain wallet. From our experiences, intermittent/connectivity issues can occur with guardians, and this may result in errors if not all three remaining guardians are consistently online. No other guardian of these federations has XYZ or other domains like it. So, if you're having issues, please try again later. Unfortunately, not much can be done on the Mutiny side, so we're removing the federation setup flow in the UI as a first step. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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