Drop the sats. Just bitcoin. It's cleaner.
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Iβm team bitties
I don't have a real opinion on this yet but, If we got rid of the word sats and now say that there are 2.1 quadrillion Bitcoin, _AND_ people hear that they can get 967 Bitcoin for a dollar, I'm pretty sure psychologically people would sense it as more of a bargain.??? Just an idea
Yes, I think you hit the head on the nail. Itβs like a psychological βstock spiltββ nothing changed fundamentally about how bitcoin works except the UI consensus.
It would be way too clumsy to almost always have to refer to bitcoin with 8 digits of precision; so, no.
or, are you actually advocating for changing the clearly consensus-accepted definition of 'bitcoin'? If so, hell no.
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#SatsTheStandard
"I was told there would only ever be 21 million bitcoin..." π«£
And now, just when I got used to it? For lightning, it is quite useful because you cut extra zeros since things are becoming cheaper with respect Bitcoins.
Drop the bitcoin. Just sats. It's cleaner.
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Doesn't changing it once imply that it might be changed again? I don't want to spend the rest of my life listening to people arguing back and forth about whether it's time to redefine the basis again---that doesn't seem very clean to me.
Only if there's a consensus change to make the basic unit in the code even more divisible?
If Bitcoin is successful, that will have to happen eventually. There's only 300,000 sats per person in the world (less than that if we assume some BTC have been lost). People have already tried to address that perceived insufficiency through things like millisats. When we fix it at the consensus layer, which will practically require a hard fork, it would be nice to address the problem forever by allowing arbitrary precision, e.g. allowing output amounts to be defined as a fraction of MAX_MONEY. If that happens, the idea of base units goes away
If you assume that we'll never add inflation to Bitcoin, then the monetary constant is the supply, not the fraction of it that we currently transact in.
The decimal place is fake anyway. Just drop it!
Btc is sound money. Sound money shouldn't change its basic functionalities because the masses are stupid and/or uneducated.
I'm gonna call you dick from now on because of your nose.
I like Sats but it can be confusing for newbs. I could never find a converter that lays it out very well so I made one.

BTC to Satoshi to USD

I might agree but what a coincidence that in Sanskrit, the word "sat" (ΰ€Έΰ€€ΰ₯) is a foundational philosophical term. It carries meanings like:
truth
being
existence
reality
what is eternal or unchanging
It appears much in ancient Hindu scriptures like the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita, and the Rigveda. example:
"Sat-chit-ananda" (ΰ€Έΰ€ΰ₯ΰ€ΰ€Ώΰ€€ΰ€Ύΰ€¨ΰ€¨ΰ₯ΰ€¦) is a famous triad meaning truth-consciousness-blissβused to describe the nature of the divine or ultimate reality.
Go Fuck Yourself.
Sats came to be called sats by consensus. Organic.
This current push is inorganic.
No, that is just retarded and will cause more confusion, leave it alone.
π€ there are some generally good arguments for this, namely the perception of accessibility. I also have experienced the confusion from the uninitiated regarding bitcoin, and the perception that it is "out of reach" or "too late."
A potential unintended consequence of this change however would be a devalued perception of bitcoin.
"Strong" fungible currencies more often than not have subunits. Interestingly, the only fungible monetary instruments without subunits are highly inflated currencies where a singular unit is useless for economic use (VES, ZWL, LBP, TRY, ARS, IRR, SDG, SYP, AOA, ETB, HUF, DONG, etc)
USD United States Dollar dollar cent
EUR Euro euro cent
GBP British Pound Sterling pound penny
JPY Japanese Yen yen sen (obsolete, rarely used)
CNY Chinese Yuan Renminbi yuan jiao/fen
INR Indian Rupee rupee paise
AUD Australian Dollar dollar cent
CAD Canadian Dollar dollar cent
CHF Swiss Franc franc rappen
RUB Russian Ruble ruble kopeck
BRL Brazilian Real real centavo
MXN Mexican Peso peso centavo
ZAR South African Rand rand cent
NZD New Zealand Dollar dollar cent
KRW South Korean Won won jeon (rare)
SEK Swedish Krona krona ΓΆre
NOK Norwegian Krone krone ΓΈre
DKK Danish Krone krone ΓΈre
TRY Turkish Lira lira kuruΕ
THB Thai Baht baht satang
SAR Saudi Riyal riyal halala
AED UAE Dirham dirham fils
PKR Pakistani Rupee rupee paisa
EGP Egyptian Pound pound piastre
NGN Nigerian Naira naira kobo
The subunits have had no effect on the majority of the population's ability to understand the difference between units and subunits.
Nuclear option probably not necessary.
Are any of these subunits 8 orders of magnitude different?
Yes, unit of length. All the way down to Angstroem. (1E-10)
Every single one of those units actually have infinite precision; so yes. There are many things in the world that are measured in fractions of a cent. While uncommon in day to day commerce, it exists, and markets don't get confused.
When USD was strong, dollars were out of reach, and cents were used day to day. People didn't get confused.
I am not sure coddling the public and treating them like toddlers is the path towards a sefl-sovereign society.
I do understand the arguments, but like many others, it is suspicious that this "decision" is an elitist, top-down initiative. It feels contrived.
Sure. I zapped you zero point zero zero zero zero zero zero twenty one bitcoin is so much cleaner.
How stupid. Yβall can call it whatever the fuck. We know what it is. Bitcoin is Bitcoin, Sats are Sats. You can choose to call it cows but that will not change what it is lol.
Retard note of the day!
Whereβs the reverse zap button?π€
Yeahhhβ¦ we're gonna need you to shut the fuck up on this one. πββοΈ
Stay humble & stack sats. π€
Disagree. I've never met anyone who was confused by the smallist division of a bitcoin being called a sat. Not any of the blue collar people I've spoken to, not my parents nor my grandparents.