HORRIBLE ADVICE.
LEARN HOW TO HOLD BITCOIN SECURELY YOURSELF.
I RECOMMEND BITKEY FOR NON TECHNICAL USERS. COLDCARD FOR EVERYONE ELSE.
SELF CUSTODY IS EASIER THAN DRIVING A CAR OR RAISING A KID.
NO EXCUSES. FIGURE IT OUT OR REGRET IT LATER.
Hardly the same. BitKey is multi signature but easy to use. Good luck doing multisig manually with a cold card. God forbid a non technical person to do so
You nailed it with your reply! I agree with you Fren ๐ and happy Sunday!
ODELL
HORRIBLE ADVICE.
LEARN HOW TO HOLD BITCOIN SECURELY YOURSELF.
I RECOMMEND BITKEY FOR NON TECHNICAL USERS. COLDCARD FOR EVERYONE ELSE.
SELF CUSTODY IS EASIER THAN DRIVING A CAR OR RAISING A KID.
NO EXCUSES. FIGURE IT OUT OR REGRET IT LATER.
Your sending and receiving of funds 999.99 per week in usd on cash app is there a limit on the bitkey or its just a signing device ? What about the wallet the coin is in?? Just need to educate myself on it I'm just really surprised ๐ฎ
I don't think this is bad advice.
Keep in mind we are coming from a perspective of people who literally thinks about BTC security all day every day. Your average person doesn't do this and often can't even keep their Twitter account secure. The difference is now they lose their life savings instead of somebody tweeting from their account.
You are likely comfortable handling private key material directly (safeguarding seed phrases), but I suspect most of your friends and family lack the time or interest to properly research and study how to do this. So for them Bitkey is a safer solution than exchanges or self custody wallets with footguns.
Lol idk about that as history shows there are those people...just we got tricked into letting others hold our own value once u understand the power behind holding it's the same as buying gold i would always be told buy the physical same with #btc pull it into ur hands :) cold storage i tell older people is basically a safe u put ur bitcoin in the safe same as gold in ur safe :)
Is someone with a family history of dementia supposed to hold their own keys? Seems like a bad idea. Iโm using an edge case to prove a point but I think the % of people that should hold their own keys in a single sig with no counterparty redundancy is less than 1% of the world.
I recommend Trezor safe 5 (or safe 3 as an โeconomicโ option). 100% satisfaction and they will soon have their own security chip boosting their security level to the max
Damn Bitkey huh surprised with that one is it that secure or u going based off morals I'm curious it's just never came up in convos only the release..appreciate the insight big dawg!
Anyone should be able to learn. To me, the key is to start small enough that it doesn't even make sense to get a hardware wallet at first. Just play around with like $20-$100 worth self-custodied on a phone app. Practice sending corn to yourself and/or back and forth with a friend. Practice wiping the app from your phone then recovering everything with your seed phrase. If you fuck up, you did it before you even had a devastating amount to lose. None of this is all that difficult. Once you feel comfortable, you will have developed a pretty good tool-set for now knowing when it makes sense to switch to a hardware wallet - or maybe you will conclude that 3rd-party custody is what would work best for you... the point is to put yourself in a position to make an educated decision regarding your personal situation rather than just blindly going with someone else's recommendation. If you're not willing to put forth even this minimal effort, you should probably just stick to ETFs if you want any exposure to Bitcoin at all.
How often do you think weโll need to change wallets going forward? With break ins or wallet companies going out of business. What is the best set it and forget it custody long term?
I use a bitkey for my mum but always worry over the upper limit that can be 'secured.' What's the upper limit, @ODELL et al or there isn't one as long as the tradeoffs are accepted.
I'm not too concerned about it not screen having a screen as we do regular rather large lump sum buys.
Iโve gotten 10 of my friends into bitcoin and I made sure they all have self custody. But unfortunately they are unwilling to learn anything and I constantly have to hold their hand. At the end of the day most people love the nerfed world we live in and only care that the beer is cold. I wonโt give up trying to educate people but I canโt make them take responsibility
Youโre better off buying the bitcoin back from them. They obviously donโt seem ready and it sounds like it would be kept better by you.
Maybe in the future if they come to the senses or if shit hits the fan you fan be in a position to help.
Nope - excellent advice *for some people* and *some circumstances*
Many are comfortable and confident managing all their bitcoins ๐ but some people - even with excellent tuition/guidance - are definitely not
Think of some of the absolute numpties you dealt with in your fiat-life; think of our old sparring partner Peter Schiff .. the bloke canโt even manage a password
Full self custody is the ideal .. some people arenโt up to it .. #reality
Love your idealism, Odell. The reality is that most people donโt want to think; they just crave dopamine hits. Everything else feels like a burden theyโd rather avoid. Unfortunately, bringing these NPCs on board is a necessary step to free those of us who value freedom. Custodial solutions are a part of the process. Saylor is part of the process, Tether, and even money laundering, are all necessary steps to free this restricted group in the new cycle of adoption.
Trezor Safe 3 or Trezor Safe 5 are great. If the money doesnโt matter go 5. But if the money really doesnโt matter go Foundation Passport. Itโs fantastic.
If people arenโt comfortable with self custody another good option is collaborative custody like unchained. They have easy to use concierge service too. Iโm curious what proportion of @River customers do self custody vs keep on exchange? @npub139nl...kwf4