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One common complaint we hear from Nostr haters is that there is no economic incentive to run relays or that the network will be centralized in a few central big relays. These claims often come from confusion or misunderstandings. I think this 40s video will clear all the matters and answer all the criticisms: If anyone doesn't understand or has a problem with this answer, please, I would like to hear it.

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How can I find the best relay to load updated events from a npub? I can find a relay with nip5, and with nprofile, but how I do that if I have just npub? Should I search for 1002 kind where? Adopt a default cache relay like primal? #asknostr
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One common complaint we hear from Nostr haters is that there is no economic incentive to run relays or that the network will be centralized in a few central big relays. These claims often come from confusion or misunderstandings. I think this 40s video will clear all the matters and answer all the criticisms: If anyone doesn't understand or has a problem with this answer, please, I would like to hear it.
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"NOSTR haters" are basically peddlers of desperate BS, trying to keep us tethered to the centralized SV-based platforms that have done us so wrong. And whose followers, I might add, are extremely dubious people -- not "entrepreneurs" as was always claimed, but likely assets of the state, or even worse, foreign governments or international crime networks. Decentralized social media threatens the surveillance, grifting and brainwashing apparatus they have so carefully built. The only value these platforms have (to their end users that is) is their network. We should be using their services to poach people to places like Nostr.
I'm not a tech guy, but hearing this might look like you are saying that the Web is starting to be rebuilt on stonger foundation than 30 years ago. Like I listened to a podcast with Jack explaining that what once screwed up the legacy web was the discoverability issue leading to Google&Co So are you basically saying that nostr fixes this? Seems to good to be true, this why their are still lots of nostr sceptics/hate IMO
How many devices are left on at home for the convenience of the "just in case"? It's all about what we value. Running a relay for free is doubtfully more expensive than these expensive rarely used electrical commodities we have on standby.
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There is value to running your own relay such as having it as an archive of your posts and other stuff, and also to serve as a caching proxy to reduce client load, and a private server for stuff you don't want to spread around, like drafts. Also with nip 29 it can be a more private way to run groups. Additionally a relay that is combined with hornet/blossom can serve as a replicated and encrypted data backup. I think the use cases will continue to grow.
Who will run the relays? All of us.
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One common complaint we hear from Nostr haters is that there is no economic incentive to run relays or that the network will be centralized in a few central big relays. These claims often come from confusion or misunderstandings. I think this 40s video will clear all the matters and answer all the criticisms: If anyone doesn't understand or has a problem with this answer, please, I would like to hear it.
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And the micropayments can help monetize
fiatjaf's avatar fiatjaf
One common complaint we hear from Nostr haters is that there is no economic incentive to run relays or that the network will be centralized in a few central big relays. These claims often come from confusion or misunderstandings. I think this 40s video will clear all the matters and answer all the criticisms: If anyone doesn't understand or has a problem with this answer, please, I would like to hear it.
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One common complaint we hear from Nostr haters is that there is no economic incentive to run relays or that the network will be centralized in a few central big relays. These claims often come from confusion or misunderstandings. I think this 40s video will clear all the matters and answer all the criticisms: If anyone doesn't understand or has a problem with this answer, please, I would like to hear it.