Christians,
Help me out here.
How does one feel strongly about Jesus? How does one have a personal relationship with Christ?
In general I feel very little or nothing when I think about god and he exists to me more as a vague concept.
Any advice?
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HODL,
Our faith is strengthened by hearing his voiceโฆโฆโฆ.
We are blessed that He gave us the Bible and that is how we strengthen our faith in Him by reading His word. That is our connection to our Heavenly Father.
My first question to you is when did you last read the Bible?
That is a barometer of whether we are lukewarm in our beliefs.
Remember that although there are many faiths, the below stands firm.
Itโs is your belief in Christ and Christ alone, that leads to salvation.
John 3:16
โFor God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.โ
Read your Bible HODL, and meditate on the versesโฆโฆ.
A Proverbs a day or a Psalms a day!
It starts from within. In the heart and with renewing of the mind.
Until those are changed by seeking wisdom Jesus/God will seem like an abstract concept.
Job 28 describes seeking wisdom. There are many places that describe a need for changing of the heart and a few that describe renewing the mind.
Reading scripture and making it a habit is the way. I myself struggle to make it routine, but the more you immerse yourself in Christ this way the more connected you will feel. Attending church and being around other Christians will help as well.
How do you feel strongly about bitcoin? Jesus is the bigger truth just keep seeking and he will reveal himself to you!
2 Cor 3:14, talks about a veil on the non believer which will be lofted if you believe in Jesus.
Keep going and you build a stronger relationship, you may not be able to pin point when you gave yourself to Jesus but I assure you if you approach him with open heart the Holy Spirit will come upon you and help you to get crazy about Jesus!
for me, I believe that God gave us free will. He never violates that gift. The only way to feel close to God is to ask Him to be close to you.
James 4:8 (KJV): "Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded."
Psalm 145:18 (NIV): "The Lord is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in truth."
Zechariah 1:3 (NIV): "Therefore tell the people: This is what the Lord Almighty says: 'Return to me, declares the Lord Almighty, and I will return to you,โ says the Lord Almighty."
God will become as close as you want Him.
I believe our decision to call to Him is what gives us value in Gods eyes. Because we have free will.
I would suggest the book โThe Reason for Godโ by Timothy Keller. It is an exploration of arguments from Christian skeptics. There is a section that focuses specifically on the relationship with God
You get to know him by reading the bible. Canโt feel strongly about someone you donโt know much about.
And of course prayer
This! But know that one has to knock, seek, knock and keep on seeking. Matt7:7 James1:25 Rev3:20 Eph1:18
Another thought: this translation provides an enormous amount of concordance, and explains how things have been translated over time. This is a sort of open-source translation of the bible. The sort of thing people on nostr will appreciate.
Another thought: this translation provides an enormous amount of concordance, and explains how things have been translated over time. This is a sort of open-source translation of the bible. The sort of thing people on nostr will appreciate -
Home | 2001 Translation
My advice would be to pray. Many would say, "But, how?" I'm a Catholic, so for me the Rosary is my prayer of choice. I pray a full Rosary each day. I also spend an hour and 20 minutes in Eucharistic Adoration each day. I'm blessed our church offers an adoration chapel. It took a long time to build up to this, but I wouldn't change it for anything. It brings such peace in this crazy world. If you want to give the Rosary a try, you can start small. One Decade (Our Father, 10 Hail Marys, Glory Be) takes about 3-4 minutes. If that's too much, just talk to Jesus each day like you'd talk to a friend. He's a great listener.
God is a social construct
Iโve come to feel close to him as a way to have someone to turn to when things are tough. It is my strong belief that as a father and leader of my family, I must always be the one they can turn to for comfort and strength. My ability to do so greatly diminishes when I show weakness or uncertainty in the face of difficulties.
Jesus Christ is the king of kings. The lord of lords. Showing your weakness and uncertainty to him in a personal relationship, while gaining strength and decisiveness is a solution where none of the people who depend on you have to hear or see your struggles.
One has a relationship with Jesus by acknowledging that we lack wholeness of being with Him in our life, and that we're incomplete and broken without His presence in our lives. All our striving for purpose and meaning in life is our soul crying out in longing for Jesus.
He gave His life in atonement for our sin and conquered death so that he might have relationship with us. He yearns for us to be with Him! Cry to Jesus and He will answer you.
Praying for you on your journey towards Him.
Ephesians 1:17-18 CSB
[17] I pray that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, would give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him. [18] I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened so that you may know what is the hope of his calling, what is the wealth of his glorious inheritance in the saints,


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It takes time. Just like any other relationship, it takes time to build. It starts out with a simple faith, but if you really love somebody, then you want to get to know them more.
The only way to do this is to meditate on the word of God, share time with other believers, and participate in the traditions of the church - as watered down as they are these daysโฆ
I came to Faith in my mid 20s out of a life of psychedelics and nihilism. I had no desire whatsoever to become a Christian, I wasnโt looking for purpose or lonely or anything like that. I just realized one day that if there is such a thing as absolute truth, then โitโ must be absolutely exclusive . Thatโs when I started reading the new testament, and it was almost as if the words were alive. I wouldnโt even get into the Trinity and how God is both centralized and decentralizedโฆ.
As the years went on, the โitโ turned into a โHim.โ And now I am at the point where I know God so well that I can actually anticipate his providence to a degree and talk to him in a non-schizo way.
Anyway, I hope this helps.
I'm a part-time believer.
For example, during funerals, I believe the person is in a better place. I see it as a tool. I need it so I use it. When it's done, I put it back in the toolbox.
I also believe that religion creates value for people even if we find out there's no god(s).
By Alan Watts
HODL, great questions. Lots of answers here already but Iโll add mine to the list.
A relationship with Jesus starts with repentance, knowing that you canโt meet Gods perfect standards on your own, and then asking God to forgive you. The Good news is that God already knows you canโt do it on your own and has made atonement for your sins through Jesusโ death and resurrection. When you put your faith in Him, he says youโre forgiven and He sends His spirit to live with you and guide you.
Google โRomans Road to Salvationโ and you can see a few verses from the book of Romans that explain this process of coming to faith.
Itโs at this point you can start grow in your faith, Christian life and feel strongly about Him like you asked.
If you want to read some from the Bible, Iโd suggest starting with the book of John, Romans, and Galatians.
If you want to read a different book explaining Christianity, my go to recommendation is Mere Christianity by CS Lewis.
Iโve been on my Christian walk for 40ish years and I canโt imagine doing it any other way. I pray that you find the answers youโre seeking.
A few things:
When someone first grokks Bitcoin, they need to recognize why they need it. In much the same way, one needs to recognize their need for Christ before they can develop a relationship with Him. That's where contemplating all our sins and imperfections comes into play. But this is also where controlling, fiat religions love to take over and inundate you with guilt and shame in order to squeeze money out of you, so it's vital that you don't stay at this stage, but only use it as a springboard to launch yourself into a personal relationship with Christ.
Have you ever watched The Chosen? It's only a TV show, but IMO its depiction of Jesus' personality is the closest to what I've experienced personally, when talking to Him and receiving His answers in my heart. You can watch The Chosen for free here:
https://watch.thechosen.tv/page/seasons%201-3
One of my favorite quotes from The Chosen comes from a woman in the 2nd episode, who, in the 1st episode, experiences demonic possession and suicidal ideations. But in episode 2, she says:
The whole point of building a relationship with Christ is to change us into better, happier, more peaceful human beings. It's not to go through Hell here to somehow accrue "points" get into Heaven some day later; it's to have a bit of Heaven in us here and now, as much as we're able to take, to strengthen and prepare us for Heaven later.
And lastly, test and try out different holy books, different ways of praying, and different styles of worshipping, and then measure their results. Basically, use the scientific method by living the teachings you find, and examine the "fruits" you get from them.
For example, I grew up Mormon, but now my relationship status with that church would be best described as "It's Complicated" (I'm actually planning on posting a note about that soon), but I've still found a lot of value in both the Bible and the Book of Mormon (which is not a replacement for the Bible by any means, but is more like a spinoff series, lol). Anyway, in the Book of Mormon, there's a great chapter in which a man named Alma is preaching to a group of poor people all about humility and faith. The humility part basically touches on the same thing I said earlier (about recognizing your need for Christ), and the faith part is all about this "scientific method" approach to coming to know God, using an analogy of planting a seed, seeing of it's good by seeing if it grows, and then nourishing it until it bears fruit. You can read the whole chapter here:
I'm glad you're asking about this, and hope you'll find Jesus at the best time and in the best way. And I think you already know to be cautious about some religious people (like Mormons and others), who may see your note as an opportunity to convert you to their particular church or way of life. While I think you'll find a lot of value in reading the Bible and the Book of Mormon side-by-side, I would actually warn you *against* the main church that champions it, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ("Mormon" is just the nickname, coined by the church's opponents because of the Book of Mormon, similar to Vitalik calling us "Bitcoin Maximalists"). Contrary to popular belief, Mormons *are* Christians, but their biggest difference from other Christians is that they believe they have God's authority, which gives them a monopoly on the way back to God.
No church has such a monopoly. The way to God is directly through His Son, Jesus Christ, on an individual level, and not through any church. But I'll say more about this in a couple days, when I share my note about the church I grew up in.
Thanks for reading all that! I hope and pray that it helps. ๐
The whole point of building a relationship with Christ is to change us into better, happier, more peaceful human beings. It's not to go through Hell here to somehow accrue "points" get into Heaven some day later; it's to have a bit of Heaven in us here and now, as much as we're able to take, to strengthen and prepare us for Heaven later.
And lastly, test and try out different holy books, different ways of praying, and different styles of worshipping, and then measure their results. Basically, use the scientific method by living the teachings you find, and examine the "fruits" you get from them.
For example, I grew up Mormon, but now my relationship status with that church would be best described as "It's Complicated" (I'm actually planning on posting a note about that soon), but I've still found a lot of value in both the Bible and the Book of Mormon (which is not a replacement for the Bible by any means, but is more like a spinoff series, lol). Anyway, in the Book of Mormon, there's a great chapter in which a man named Alma is preaching to a group of poor people all about humility and faith. The humility part basically touches on the same thing I said earlier (about recognizing your need for Christ), and the faith part is all about this "scientific method" approach to coming to know God, using an analogy of planting a seed, seeing of it's good by seeing if it grows, and then nourishing it until it bears fruit. You can read the whole chapter here:
Alma 32
Alma teaches the poor whose afflictions had humbled themโFaith is a hope in that which is not seen which is trueโAlma testifies that angels min...
What a powerful answer, thanks ๐
Having an emotional connection to Jesus is a modern Protestant invention. The Eastern Christian tradition does not place the same value on logic (Aquinas) or emotions (pietism) as the West. In the Orthodox tradition, you can directly perceive and relate to Christ through the "nous" (the spiritual organ of perception). In order for the nous to function properly, it needs to be purified through prayer, fasting, works of mercy, regular consumption of the Body and Blood, and confession to a priest. The nous is like a dirty mirror than cannot reflect God's glory until it is cleaned.
Wait....wtf? You're orthodox? I found bitcoin and naturally gravitated to orthodox. What is happening here?
Been following you 3 years. keep up the good work.
I converted to Orthodoxy a couple of years ago.
Coincidentally I recently discovered you and last week decided to sign up for your course at Bitcoin University.
Now I am Definitely going to! ๐
With respect - your approach is heavily
Logical. Are you gravitating towards Aquinas ?
Roman Catholicism takes a similar approach, only they call the nous the "soul". Christ is unclear on this IMO, but Paul makes the claim that that salvation is only through a truthful declaration (faith) that you believe Christ is your Lord. What "salvation is through" means is less clear, it's stated as a guarantee (at least in KJV) but it could also mean it's only the first step to unity with the Father. I do not believe salvation is obtained through the sacraments and good deeds, as this is works-only, but am of the belief (I Peter 2:9) that works and deeds are evidence of salvation and are not the means. Purification and an outpouring of holy spirit is obtained by quietly being present and one with the Father
What a cool topic. This is my first time on NOSTR, first post. Lol, I was picturing this space to look like an AppleIIfor some reason, like, green and black and drab. You know. I learned of nostr from BTC University maybe three years ago, annnnnd it's taken me this finally sign up because I knew it'd stress me out lol. I loath "signing up". Anyway...
Just some context, My uncle lived in and around Thimpu around 20 years. I went to a middle school run by a zen buhhist head master. Grew up with Taekwondo. I lived in Thailand for ten years. And 'Check Yo Head" by the BBoys is dope. I've never considered myself Buddhist. I wouldn't be agreeable to say that I am, in fact. The influence and knowledge may be evident if one knew what to decipher, I guess. I dunno.
You make a point about strong emotional conviction towards God. I haven't experienced that type of 'genre'of devotion from the east side, towards their deity. Though, for example, I don't think it'd surprise me if Somchai had his jugular snipped for slandering the king, well the previous one anyway. What I mean is there's intense and expected dedication for the king. I just had a thought that Christians have a strong emotional tie for, Jesus. I thought for a sec the two analogous, but worshiping the king is not like Jesus, I think now for two reasons: the Tao is not a creator, and it's seems Siddhartha would be more fitting when considering Jesus' relationship to God.
Eeh, I'm rambling, sorry. So, this topic is fitting because the very.... very best people I interact with, and respect, are all Christians these days. live in Santa Barbara, my hometown, where Christians are what you hear about on the corporate media doing something somewhere else. I work two store wrenching on bikes. Both owners have known me for, well one for more than 30 years and the other twenty or so. 80-90 Christian-employeed. They accept me, fully. They're what I've got left. I'm probably way off topic. Bye
My relationship with Dionysus and Hermes is much stronger. Jesus lost touch with his followers and given the history of the church that claims his legacy, I'm ok with leaving it in the history books.
Its even worse than this.https://www.youtube.com/live/bhRY7pUQTnE?si=Yrn4JMIoc7IYJSOD
One will live happier and more principled by having a Master. Ego is a destroyer of life. Wisdom brings more solutions.
Begin with daily prayer, asking the God of your understanding what you can do to be of maximum service to others. Ask Him for the strength to do His will. Pause many times throughout the day to invite Him in to any and all of your endeavors. Practice faith, reliance and trust in Him. This is a good way to begin to have a relationship with God.
BRO Iโm the same way! I feel like itโs an amazing feeling to truly believe it, but my logician brain refuses to let me view it as anything more than a construct of the human psyche. It always comes back to being one way to shield and protect yourself from the inevitable shitstorm that is life, and a way to make every end justify the means.
Not necessarily a negative thing, despite the vernacular, but it just feels like a spiritual safety blanket.
In the follow up to this article (link in bottom), I touch on how most people - regardless of whether they consider themselves as believing in anything resembling the divine - live and act as if God exist. Might give a perspective - did for me once I understood it.
https://medium.com/@penglunds/why-being-stranded-on-an-island-explains-everything-you-need-to-know-about-inflation-b08e51ae1058
This was a fantastic read. Thank you!
Thank you! Glad you liked it. ๐
You don't have to approach divinity through religion. You yourself are a part of God, therefore, you *are* God. The key is to "know thyself." This means turning inward through meditation, quieting the mind, and practicing one-pointed focus. As you still your thoughts, the truth becomes clearer. After all, *"Be still, and know that I am God."* Itโs about connecting to the divine within, not just outside of you. When you understand yourself deeply, thatโs where youโll meet Christ, quietly waiting.
In saying that, if one wants to walk the path through religion, we must respect their choice. There is no right or wrong path to the divine. Some take a shorter route, some get sidetracked, and some take detours. Ultimately, we all come from the same source and will return to the same source. Itโs about honoring the journey, no matter the form it takes, because the destination is shared by all. So whether you meditate, pray, or explore scripture, the divine remains present in all ways.
reach out and touch faith
At first glance this is just a reference to a 90s electro pop song .. on deeper analysis when you study the ancient greek ... the reference adoitly goes to whatever Jesus was doing with that naked boy at 4am in the garden of Gethsemene just as the cops arrested Jesus.
No rules until there are
1: study scripture (I recommend starting with the New Testament)
2: pray for understanding. One question I like to ask is "IF this were true, what would that MEAN for me?"
3: observe and repeat
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I love Johns Gosple, John 14 is beyond words, it resinates in your soul
Thought this was a good explanation.
Itโs Love. Thatโs All. Love everyone and everything that comes before (in front of) you and you will feel something Withinโฆ.THAT is God, Light, Source, Universeโฆ.Love.
One usually needs to suffer a great hardship or shock to find faith, regardless whether it's Christianity or some other faith.
I had a breakdown in my 20's and through trying to understand what happened discovered Buddhism.
Have you ever read โMere Christianityโ by CS Lewis? IMO, this will be a good start.
My curiosity is what brought you to ask this question. Why isnโt a vague concept of God not enough? I donโt have a relationship with Jesus and never needed one because I have trust in cosmic laws. What came before Jesus and religion? Thatโs where I tend to gravitate. The Kybalion is an interesting book to start with. Something created this universe we are living in, I think the concept of this is meant to be vague but your connection to source/God is alive within you and all around you. Observing and being in nature, in silence illuminates that connection.
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Worth your time if youโre really seeking, many answers here in this thread represent clearly the wide path that leads to destruction (look inward/ seek the spirit realm through forbidden means, etc.). The call to repentance and faith isnโt a game and it isnโt optional, thereโs no fence sitting, wish you and your family the best ๐ค
Hebrews 2:10-18
I believe in order to have an authentic emotional experience With Christ, you would first need to see him face to face. If you ever did, it wouldn't be a warm-fuzzy, lubby, dubby experience, it would be one of absolute Reflection of yourself and how you are intrinsically so inadequate, compared to his purity.
