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Christians, Help me out here. How does one feel strongly about Jesus? How does one have a personal relationship with Christ? In general I feel very little or nothing when I think about god and he exists to me more as a vague concept. Any advice?

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Feelings and individuality are over-valued in modern Christianity. But it is possible to feel strongly about Jesus, as a real person, not as an abstract concept. To do that, you have to know who he is — this is best done by reading the gospels, which are in part his biography. This brings you to the same level of affection you might have for Tesla, or Vitruvius, or Archimedes, or whoever your favorite (most loved) dead historical figure might be. Next, pray and read the Psalms (and pray the Psalms), because they are the words of Jesus, given by inspiration to David et al. This makes you an active participant in the conversation between God and the Church which has been happening throughout the history. One other great resource for understanding the "loveliness of Christ" is a book by the same name, by Samuel Rutherford. It's sort of a mixture of all of the above, including personal and theological articulations of what Jesus should mean to the Christian. Especially good in seasons of grief, when God can seem most remote, and when Jesus can become most real. 📄.pdf
If you are up for it, I would consider a daily devotional from a Tozer, Spurgeon, or some old school Christian like that along with actually reading through the whole Bible. You will start to see how his calls to you are about personal responsibility, self discipline, and morality that all stem from the relationship you have with God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit. This, of course, is predicated upon acceptance of Christ as your Savior. If you’re just looking for some mystical journey of wisdom to find spirituality, you will never find it. That only comes after fully committing to Christ and daily prayer. Like all good things in life, it’s a low time preference endeavor that begins with one high time preference decision.
Beyond the mystical, for me is upmost respect, even when I thought I was agnostic I always respected Him, but not for what He said, but for what He did. All His actions led him towards the cross. Here is a good translation of a XVI century Spanish poem from an anonymous author, original title "No me mueve mi Dios para quererte" The author just like Descartes' Meditations, searches for reality as foundation, in his/her case, is not mathematics, but staring to His body at the cross: "I am not moved, my God, to love you By the heaven which you've promised. Nor am I moved by the Hell I fear, And for that reason, not to offend you. You move me, Lord! It moves me to see you Humiliated and nailed to a cross; It moves me to see your body wounded so; It moves me to behold your suffering and death. Ultimately, I am moved by your love, In such a way that even if there were no heaven, I would love you, And even if there were no hell, I would fear you. You need give me nothing for me to love you, For even if I had no hope for things hoped for, I would love you the same as I love you now."
HODL, Our faith is strengthened by hearing his voice………. We are blessed that He gave us the Bible and that is how we strengthen our faith in Him by reading His word. That is our connection to our Heavenly Father. My first question to you is when did you last read the Bible? That is a barometer of whether we are lukewarm in our beliefs. Remember that although there are many faiths, the below stands firm. It’s is your belief in Christ and Christ alone, that leads to salvation. John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” Read your Bible HODL, and meditate on the verses……. A Proverbs a day or a Psalms a day!
It starts from within. In the heart and with renewing of the mind. Until those are changed by seeking wisdom Jesus/God will seem like an abstract concept. Job 28 describes seeking wisdom. There are many places that describe a need for changing of the heart and a few that describe renewing the mind.
Reading scripture and making it a habit is the way. I myself struggle to make it routine, but the more you immerse yourself in Christ this way the more connected you will feel. Attending church and being around other Christians will help as well.
How do you feel strongly about bitcoin? Jesus is the bigger truth just keep seeking and he will reveal himself to you! 2 Cor 3:14, talks about a veil on the non believer which will be lofted if you believe in Jesus. Keep going and you build a stronger relationship, you may not be able to pin point when you gave yourself to Jesus but I assure you if you approach him with open heart the Holy Spirit will come upon you and help you to get crazy about Jesus!
for me, I believe that God gave us free will. He never violates that gift. The only way to feel close to God is to ask Him to be close to you. James 4:8 (KJV): "Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded." Psalm 145:18 (NIV): "The Lord is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in truth." Zechariah 1:3 (NIV): "Therefore tell the people: This is what the Lord Almighty says: 'Return to me, declares the Lord Almighty, and I will return to you,’ says the Lord Almighty." God will become as close as you want Him. I believe our decision to call to Him is what gives us value in Gods eyes. Because we have free will.
My advice would be to pray. Many would say, "But, how?" I'm a Catholic, so for me the Rosary is my prayer of choice. I pray a full Rosary each day. I also spend an hour and 20 minutes in Eucharistic Adoration each day. I'm blessed our church offers an adoration chapel. It took a long time to build up to this, but I wouldn't change it for anything. It brings such peace in this crazy world. If you want to give the Rosary a try, you can start small. One Decade (Our Father, 10 Hail Marys, Glory Be) takes about 3-4 minutes. If that's too much, just talk to Jesus each day like you'd talk to a friend. He's a great listener.
I’ve come to feel close to him as a way to have someone to turn to when things are tough. It is my strong belief that as a father and leader of my family, I must always be the one they can turn to for comfort and strength. My ability to do so greatly diminishes when I show weakness or uncertainty in the face of difficulties. Jesus Christ is the king of kings. The lord of lords. Showing your weakness and uncertainty to him in a personal relationship, while gaining strength and decisiveness is a solution where none of the people who depend on you have to hear or see your struggles.
One has a relationship with Jesus by acknowledging that we lack wholeness of being with Him in our life, and that we're incomplete and broken without His presence in our lives. All our striving for purpose and meaning in life is our soul crying out in longing for Jesus. He gave His life in atonement for our sin and conquered death so that he might have relationship with us. He yearns for us to be with Him! Cry to Jesus and He will answer you. Praying for you on your journey towards Him. Ephesians 1:17-18 CSB [17] I pray that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, would give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him. [18] I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened so that you may know what is the hope of his calling, what is the wealth of his glorious inheritance in the saints,
It takes time. Just like any other relationship, it takes time to build. It starts out with a simple faith, but if you really love somebody, then you want to get to know them more. The only way to do this is to meditate on the word of God, share time with other believers, and participate in the traditions of the church - as watered down as they are these days… I came to Faith in my mid 20s out of a life of psychedelics and nihilism. I had no desire whatsoever to become a Christian, I wasn’t looking for purpose or lonely or anything like that. I just realized one day that if there is such a thing as absolute truth, then “it” must be absolutely exclusive . That’s when I started reading the new testament, and it was almost as if the words were alive. I wouldn’t even get into the Trinity and how God is both centralized and decentralized…. As the years went on, the “it” turned into a “Him.” And now I am at the point where I know God so well that I can actually anticipate his providence to a degree and talk to him in a non-schizo way. Anyway, I hope this helps.
I'm a part-time believer. For example, during funerals, I believe the person is in a better place. I see it as a tool. I need it so I use it. When it's done, I put it back in the toolbox. I also believe that religion creates value for people even if we find out there's no god(s).
HODL, great questions. Lots of answers here already but I’ll add mine to the list. A relationship with Jesus starts with repentance, knowing that you can’t meet Gods perfect standards on your own, and then asking God to forgive you. The Good news is that God already knows you can’t do it on your own and has made atonement for your sins through Jesus’ death and resurrection. When you put your faith in Him, he says you’re forgiven and He sends His spirit to live with you and guide you. Google “Romans Road to Salvation” and you can see a few verses from the book of Romans that explain this process of coming to faith. It’s at this point you can start grow in your faith, Christian life and feel strongly about Him like you asked. If you want to read some from the Bible, I’d suggest starting with the book of John, Romans, and Galatians. If you want to read a different book explaining Christianity, my go to recommendation is Mere Christianity by CS Lewis. I’ve been on my Christian walk for 40ish years and I can’t imagine doing it any other way. I pray that you find the answers you’re seeking.
A few things: When someone first grokks Bitcoin, they need to recognize why they need it. In much the same way, one needs to recognize their need for Christ before they can develop a relationship with Him. That's where contemplating all our sins and imperfections comes into play. But this is also where controlling, fiat religions love to take over and inundate you with guilt and shame in order to squeeze money out of you, so it's vital that you don't stay at this stage, but only use it as a springboard to launch yourself into a personal relationship with Christ. Have you ever watched The Chosen? It's only a TV show, but IMO its depiction of Jesus' personality is the closest to what I've experienced personally, when talking to Him and receiving His answers in my heart. You can watch The Chosen for free here: https://watch.thechosen.tv/page/seasons%201-3 One of my favorite quotes from The Chosen comes from a woman in the 2nd episode, who, in the 1st episode, experiences demonic possession and suicidal ideations. But in episode 2, she says: image The whole point of building a relationship with Christ is to change us into better, happier, more peaceful human beings. It's not to go through Hell here to somehow accrue "points" get into Heaven some day later; it's to have a bit of Heaven in us here and now, as much as we're able to take, to strengthen and prepare us for Heaven later. And lastly, test and try out different holy books, different ways of praying, and different styles of worshipping, and then measure their results. Basically, use the scientific method by living the teachings you find, and examine the "fruits" you get from them. For example, I grew up Mormon, but now my relationship status with that church would be best described as "It's Complicated" (I'm actually planning on posting a note about that soon), but I've still found a lot of value in both the Bible and the Book of Mormon (which is not a replacement for the Bible by any means, but is more like a spinoff series, lol). Anyway, in the Book of Mormon, there's a great chapter in which a man named Alma is preaching to a group of poor people all about humility and faith. The humility part basically touches on the same thing I said earlier (about recognizing your need for Christ), and the faith part is all about this "scientific method" approach to coming to know God, using an analogy of planting a seed, seeing of it's good by seeing if it grows, and then nourishing it until it bears fruit. You can read the whole chapter here: I'm glad you're asking about this, and hope you'll find Jesus at the best time and in the best way. And I think you already know to be cautious about some religious people (like Mormons and others), who may see your note as an opportunity to convert you to their particular church or way of life. While I think you'll find a lot of value in reading the Bible and the Book of Mormon side-by-side, I would actually warn you *against* the main church that champions it, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ("Mormon" is just the nickname, coined by the church's opponents because of the Book of Mormon, similar to Vitalik calling us "Bitcoin Maximalists"). Contrary to popular belief, Mormons *are* Christians, but their biggest difference from other Christians is that they believe they have God's authority, which gives them a monopoly on the way back to God. No church has such a monopoly. The way to God is directly through His Son, Jesus Christ, on an individual level, and not through any church. But I'll say more about this in a couple days, when I share my note about the church I grew up in. Thanks for reading all that! I hope and pray that it helps. 🙏
Having an emotional connection to Jesus is a modern Protestant invention. The Eastern Christian tradition does not place the same value on logic (Aquinas) or emotions (pietism) as the West. In the Orthodox tradition, you can directly perceive and relate to Christ through the "nous" (the spiritual organ of perception). In order for the nous to function properly, it needs to be purified through prayer, fasting, works of mercy, regular consumption of the Body and Blood, and confession to a priest. The nous is like a dirty mirror than cannot reflect God's glory until it is cleaned.
Roman Catholicism takes a similar approach, only they call the nous the "soul". Christ is unclear on this IMO, but Paul makes the claim that that salvation is only through a truthful declaration (faith) that you believe Christ is your Lord. What "salvation is through" means is less clear, it's stated as a guarantee (at least in KJV) but it could also mean it's only the first step to unity with the Father. I do not believe salvation is obtained through the sacraments and good deeds, as this is works-only, but am of the belief (I Peter 2:9) that works and deeds are evidence of salvation and are not the means. Purification and an outpouring of holy spirit is obtained by quietly being present and one with the Father
What a cool topic. This is my first time on NOSTR, first post. Lol, I was picturing this space to look like an AppleIIfor some reason, like, green and black and drab. You know. I learned of nostr from BTC University maybe three years ago, annnnnd it's taken me this finally sign up because I knew it'd stress me out lol. I loath "signing up". Anyway... Just some context, My uncle lived in and around Thimpu around 20 years. I went to a middle school run by a zen buhhist head master. Grew up with Taekwondo. I lived in Thailand for ten years. And 'Check Yo Head" by the BBoys is dope. I've never considered myself Buddhist. I wouldn't be agreeable to say that I am, in fact. The influence and knowledge may be evident if one knew what to decipher, I guess. I dunno. You make a point about strong emotional conviction towards God. I haven't experienced that type of 'genre'of devotion from the east side, towards their deity. Though, for example, I don't think it'd surprise me if Somchai had his jugular snipped for slandering the king, well the previous one anyway. What I mean is there's intense and expected dedication for the king. I just had a thought that Christians have a strong emotional tie for, Jesus. I thought for a sec the two analogous, but worshiping the king is not like Jesus, I think now for two reasons: the Tao is not a creator, and it's seems Siddhartha would be more fitting when considering Jesus' relationship to God. Eeh, I'm rambling, sorry. So, this topic is fitting because the very.... very best people I interact with, and respect, are all Christians these days. live in Santa Barbara, my hometown, where Christians are what you hear about on the corporate media doing something somewhere else. I work two store wrenching on bikes. Both owners have known me for, well one for more than 30 years and the other twenty or so. 80-90 Christian-employeed. They accept me, fully. They're what I've got left. I'm probably way off topic. Bye
Begin with daily prayer, asking the God of your understanding what you can do to be of maximum service to others. Ask Him for the strength to do His will. Pause many times throughout the day to invite Him in to any and all of your endeavors. Practice faith, reliance and trust in Him. This is a good way to begin to have a relationship with God.
BRO I’m the same way! I feel like it’s an amazing feeling to truly believe it, but my logician brain refuses to let me view it as anything more than a construct of the human psyche. It always comes back to being one way to shield and protect yourself from the inevitable shitstorm that is life, and a way to make every end justify the means. Not necessarily a negative thing, despite the vernacular, but it just feels like a spiritual safety blanket.
You don't have to approach divinity through religion. You yourself are a part of God, therefore, you *are* God. The key is to "know thyself." This means turning inward through meditation, quieting the mind, and practicing one-pointed focus. As you still your thoughts, the truth becomes clearer. After all, *"Be still, and know that I am God."* It’s about connecting to the divine within, not just outside of you. When you understand yourself deeply, that’s where you’ll meet Christ, quietly waiting. In saying that, if one wants to walk the path through religion, we must respect their choice. There is no right or wrong path to the divine. Some take a shorter route, some get sidetracked, and some take detours. Ultimately, we all come from the same source and will return to the same source. It’s about honoring the journey, no matter the form it takes, because the destination is shared by all. So whether you meditate, pray, or explore scripture, the divine remains present in all ways.
My curiosity is what brought you to ask this question. Why isn’t a vague concept of God not enough? I don’t have a relationship with Jesus and never needed one because I have trust in cosmic laws. What came before Jesus and religion? That’s where I tend to gravitate. The Kybalion is an interesting book to start with. Something created this universe we are living in, I think the concept of this is meant to be vague but your connection to source/God is alive within you and all around you. Observing and being in nature, in silence illuminates that connection.
1. (~3 min) 2. (~1.5 hrs) Worth your time if you’re really seeking, many answers here in this thread represent clearly the wide path that leads to destruction (look inward/ seek the spirit realm through forbidden means, etc.). The call to repentance and faith isn’t a game and it isn’t optional, there’s no fence sitting, wish you and your family the best 🤝 Hebrews 2:10-18
I believe in order to have an authentic emotional experience With Christ, you would first need to see him face to face. If you ever did, it wouldn't be a warm-fuzzy, lubby, dubby experience, it would be one of absolute Reflection of yourself and how you are intrinsically so inadequate, compared to his purity.