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Debt based money and privacy cannot coexist. You can't issue unsustainable debt without vetting borrowers on a deeper and deeper level. Credit based money is inextricably tied to ever more invasive surveillance. "Surveillance capitalism" and debt based money are the same thing.

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This is not intended as "FUD", but to direct attention to something important. Please don't dismiss, but think through. Not perfectly on topic, but closely adjacent: Something I find that the stereotypical bitcoiner doesn't seem to (want to) think about is that there's a catch 22 here. Even Bitcoin and other freedom technology is dependent on a free enough internet, or the good will of the government. One of the two. There's mandatory digital ID:s planned in the UK, surveillance backdoors on all devices being discussed in the EU, and the list goes on, and no doubt more is being thought about everywhere in the world. And in the US you have the stuff about private transactions and the Patriot act. Everyone talks about having a long time preference, and whether you define that as 10, 50 or even hundreds of years, I don't think we have that time. Maybe not even five if things go real bad. If every device is surveilled, it's easy to put anyone using freedom tech the "wrong" way in prison. If mandatory ISP filtering is introduced, it can probably filter out even encrypted data that doesn't conform to "allowed" standards somehow, some kind of mandatory identifier for approved websites and services. I haven't heard of such a scheme yet, but these things can come extremely quickly. Either freedom technology becomes as bad as fiat technology, not in itself, but through the surrounding structure of devices and communication networks, or it is forced to centralize or disappear. Then, after 10, 100, 1000 or even more years, everything is still controlled, impossible to even think about it being any other way, since any such thoughts can't be shared. Freedom technology has already started to fix problems, but in my estimation it's not over the event horizon yet. Maybe it will be in 10, 30 or 50 years, maybe even shorter or longer, it's impossible to predict, but either way it requires that it survives until then. Building freedom tech or lobbying governments for both privacy and the right to use freedom tech, I don't think that one front is enough for this. I think both are absolutely necessary. (And for those who say "just move", right... literally billions of people? Or a few, slashing division of labor to nothing, not being allowed to trade with the rest of the world? I can pay you in bitcoin for the potatoes and you can pay me for the horse and the wooden plough? Hoping that the rest of the world doesn't want to attack us for using bitcoin, and in that case defending ourselves with sticks? This trend of crackdown attempts is too fast and too widespread for that approach.)