Quick demo of Samiz + Citrine + Jumble working with 3 phones sharing notes via BLE:
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p2p nostr.
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Great POC!
That's beautiful.
Who needs Bitchat
Really cool
What do Samiz, Citrine and Jumble all do?
citrine is local nostr relay and jumble is nostr web client. By using both application we use our personal nostr service.
- Citrine is a relay that runs in your Android phone.
- Samiz syncs your local Citrine events with other people's Citrine events.
- Jumble displays a feed of that specific relay and allows you to post to that specific relay.
That way you get a hyperlocal "Nostr" with a feed of stuff only from people that are close to each other (and that they have decided to publish on that local feed, so presumably it will be things of interest to whoever is nearby).
So awesome.
Amazing! Superb! Why isn't the world talking about this as it deserves?
Not jack
they take a really really long time and pretty much only come around when they have no other choice. and even then maybe just 5% of them. the other 95% are lost forever
Let's go!
Quick demo of Samiz + Citrine + Jumble working with 3 phones sharing notes via BLE:
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NΓ£o Γ© necessΓ‘rio usar o Bitchat, o Samiz jΓ‘ resolve.
Quick demo of Samiz + Citrine + Jumble working with 3 phones sharing notes via BLE:
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Quick demo of Samiz + Citrine + Jumble working with 3 phones sharing notes via BLE:
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Why does inbox.relays.land return so few events? π€£
@semisol ?
relays.land is not the same as nostr.land.
Because it only has events that were sent to it and many clients do not send mentions and replies to the correct relays. Also it filters out stuff not in your WoT and events with too many "p" tags.
It seems like kind:7 events aren't being stored, right?
Tecnologias Bluetooth são interessante, mas é muito vulnerÑvel. Por mais que sejamos entusiastas da descentralização, não uma rede mesh bluetooth não se opera sem riscos severos à segurança.
Talvez em um futuro prΓ³ximo, quando essas tecnologias forem usadas com sinal de Tethering WiFi, coisas que Bitchat pretende fazer.
Rede mesh bluetooth seria apenas para emergΓͺncias, uma catΓ‘strofe de proporçáes de deixar tudo offline. E ainda assim Γ© arriscado nΓ£o ter dispositivos preparados, porque os aplicativos de mesh bluetooth que tenho testado dependem que o primeiro acesso tenha internet. NΓ£o adiantaria sair distribuindo o apk para as pessoas se comunicarem em um cenΓ‘rio totalmente sem internet.
Para o Samiz ser funcional, pessoas prΓ³ximas precisam usar todos os recursos habilitados (Samiz, Citrine e um client compatΓvel) e dar suporte aos usuΓ‘rios offline. Eu nΓ£o faria isso e nem recomendaria ninguΓ©m a fazer.
Sem falar que pode ser que exista as mesmas vulnerabilidades que hΓ‘ no bitchat, de permitir o ataque man-in-the-middle para atacantes assumir identidades.
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It is a right solution but wrong design !
Can you elaborate?
The user interface needs to be #bitchat ..
Why ?
1) it is light weight
2) best design
3) going to be lot more popular than #nostr . Even if not , it captures a different cohort of users .
Opportunity for nostr
1) stream the channels live .. imagine a conference of 5000 people chatting on bitchat but one of them is streaming live .. it is like live news from battlefield :-)
2) allow users to login with nostr npub ..optional for users.... but the benefit carrot is obvious , it lets me use different devices .. backs up my communication on relays if I want
3) why should nostr do it .. 1) new user cohort to capture 2) ride the bitchat wave 3) alignment of ethos .. freedom , anti deplatfom etc
4) new client interface . Lay the ground work for other platforms to adopt nostr as a protocol
What nostr should NOT do
1) create another app - cuz it is unnecessary
2) confuse users - three layer architecture
3) double the attack surface
neat!
How do you get the Jumble PWA to work without internet?
it doesn't seem remember my relay list when i'm off-line, but probably i would have more success if i didn't use a bunker to log in to it π
Someday someone will release a native app with such relay-focused interface.
@Vitor Pamplona once said he would do it on Amethyst.
I have thought a lot about it. Our architecture goes against that model, but it wouldn't be impossible. I just don't have a good visual for what the UI should look like. Our users clearly don't care about which relay is doing what, so I would need to turn them around to think about relays first.
My thinking currently is large tiles with an image, kinda like the youtube thumbnails, and hope that relays will advertise themselves (function, subject, domain, whatever etc.) visually.
Treat them like they are websites/portals people enter
Considering myself one of your user, I'd say the relay thinking comes. Without failing. For me it was when some message got lost, and I started to look for community on the protocol. I'm lucky to possess some of the skills required to run a relay, so I did that. But there are plenty of neat one out there, where I can be exposed to ideas I wouldn't find in my bubbles, but without the mad spam.
Lately I have found myself using amethyst only for private messages, and for leisure in the open: jumble.
Love what you are doing though, @Vitor Pamplona . Looking forward to test next release!
Samiz v0.0.6-alpha is now out! π
## What's new
###Features
Include own user-agent in local relay connections
###Fix
armeabi-v7a and arm64-v8a architectures now available to download
Also available on @Zapstore
GitHub
Release v0.0.7-alpha Β· KoalaSat/samiz
Samiz v0.0.6-alpha is now out! π
What's new
Features
Include own user-agent in local relay connections
Fix
armeabi-v7a and arm64-v8a architec...
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Happy to see @Samiz getting more love and recognition π₯°
I think we will see LoRa devices as well appear in the next 4-5 years appear due to safety concerns.
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Great idea. I would also think about building soft for small BLE devices like those with ESP32 that can act as repeater.
@Yarnlady π§Ά You got featured!
π I've made it!! That Cinderace turned out cool af.