Ordinals and inscriptions aren’t using bitcoin the money. They are merely using #Bitcoin *nodes* to store their garbage, and the bitcoin *name* to sell it to people.
It makes perfect, and necessary,
logic to build, optimize, and restrict the #Bitcoin system to only allow and facilitate the bitcoin *money.*
This isn’t a contradiction, it isn’t censorship, it’s necessary to defining what the protocol even does.
Any other arguments you want to have about the difficulty, feasibility, or foolishness of making or trying to reverse changes or certain data that is already included are valid. But the above point is true no matter what side you take.
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I agree that we need to protect the main use case of Bitcoin as money, but changes to the protocol in order to do this need to be taken very seriously and we need to think if it’s long term needed at all.
The majority of people that are using Bitcoin for data storage are trying to resell what they are inscribing for a profit. The hype will eventually die off and so will the expectation of profit. If the free market can solve our problems, doing nothing may be the best thing we can do.
There’s a small minority of these people actually trying to store data in an immutable way, but as NOSTR as a protocol grows I think these people will naturally move here to do this.
Just my 2 sats hope I wasn’t rambling
This.
#Bitcoin can be used (validely) as an atomic, immutable, trustless data bus.
OP_RETURN is useful. Not just for Whirlpool, but also decentralized identity proofs, and other usecases yet concieved.
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it is not p2p money
not private
nothing to do with satoshi nakamoto
You sound incredibly smart
'I’m a Bitcoin only pleb'
says the religious zealot
dog muzzler wearer
that speaks for itself
Do you speak in haiku? 🤣 ok guy👍
I never believed in saying “if a person is genius in one, he is a genius in everything”
But getting older I start believing in “if a person is load and stupid in one, he is stupid in everything”
When you are smart and bad at something, you know it. When your dumb, you think you know everything you need to know.
Should there not be #Bitcoin, storing #ordinals sounds like asking a highly reputed bank to keep my groceries in their safes for a hefty fee.
I'm willing to pay millions of money units to store a few cucumbers in certain bank safes–those with unique serial numbers; what's wrong with that?
I guess they will eventually gain some value and I could sell one or two to the next collector of banked cucumbers.
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Lets get rid of OP_RETURN and merged mining while we're at it
Not possible without another fork war.
Yes, Bitcoin has the best financial store and payment use cases (payment with Lightning Network). And there are other blockchains so much better for digital art.
For those 1 sat transactions, what if only transactions are valid if the value of the transaction is higher then the transaction fee? Maybe gets rid of a lot of crap?
I'm suprised you of all people have this take.
I have heard your voice countless times in my hears laying out why the only sensible use of a blockchain is money, i.e. people only have one worthy use for a decentralized inefficient database.
Blockspace is blockspace. Money just happens to be the only worthy use case for block space in the long run. There is absolutely 0 need to enforce that directly. The free market naturally self corrects malinvestments.
Doing so just makes bitcoiners look desperate, insecure and petty.
I still think this. On a long enough timeline this isn’t an issue. My argument above isn’t suggesting otherwise. Fees are the best solution.
I know everyone was praising taproot, but the question I have not being super technical and only seeing the unintended consequences of ordinals is did it actually make bitcoin better money? I’m seeing the ordinal downside without the upside.
Ordinals aren’t that big of a downside, and there are a lot of important capabilities of taproot that make it really good to have. In fact with something like BitVM, we may have options for scaling that we hadn’t thought possible. I’ve always felt the room for incredibly large scripts was important in the long run. Maybe some has a different opinion but I still think that.
From the perspective of a money-only user of Bitcoin, ordinal transactions are inefficient in space. They use more block space than strictly necessary.
From the perspective of a single-sig user, multisig transactions are likewise inefficient in space. Additional programmability takes block space (at minimum in the unlocking).
But both ordinals and multisig transactions must be efficient in fees, in order to be mined. Fees are the equalizer. Value for value.
The fee market is the guarantor of censorship resistance. A censored party can increase their fee rate to incentivize miners. This increases hash rate, punishing the censor with reduced profitability.
If we abandon fees as the exclusive arbiter of efficiency, we also give up our engine of censorship resistance.
"let's fix global money then congest the network with memes"
I agree. Also consider that decoupling the components that make up the whole system might be the only way towards scaling things up on the long run.
It doesn't need to be a perfect system, it only needs to be anti-fragile.