It really is funny how triggered people get by me telling them to have children.
It’s still going on in my mentions lol
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People think they’re above having children. That it’s some primitive urge that civilized people don’t engage in. I used to be one of those people, but now have a 3rd on the way.
😂 It's like telling cats to act like wolves.
I used to not want kids, now they are my everything. 🥰 I don’t think you get the full life experience without them.
I didn't want kids for 30 years. Got a vasectomy to make sure of it.
Met the right woman and had to get two reversals to make it happen. Now we have two! Having children is the absolute best choice we ever made.
One of the best things about having kids is you also get the chance to do it all over again if you are lucky enough to become a Grandparent. 😊🙏
Ohhh my goodness yes that thought has me so giddy with glee! 👵🏼
Ignore them. They know not what they miss.
All for people having kids just thought of this
It's evergreen bait, it seems
100%
Some people are unable to afford children, to play devil's advocate here. Part of this is something to do with sterilization through endocrine disruptors (like polyester), genital mutilation, chemical castration, etc.
That's just not true. Highest birth rates are on the poorest countries.
That's because poison is not easily available in those countries.
Keep going then…you’re hitting something close to home.
Sounds like the tail end of a first date to me
Out of context it does.
most non-parents I know would have made such better parents than the parents I know.
Funny how life works that way.
This is a big part of the problem.
Most of the people who should be breeding, the responsible mature people who aren't just living for the moment are the people not breeding.
I'm triggered by your desire for us to have just one or two kids instead of four or more. We have to replace not only ourselves, but also the government's slave morons.
Children are the ultimate paradox. They simultaneously destroy your ego and reconstruct your soul.
They’re the hardest challenge you’ll never want to quit, a relentless dismantling of who you thought you were, and a revelation of who you’re capable of becoming.
The ROI? Immeasurable. The cost? Everything you thought mattered.
@HODL is on point. The poorest generations in history still figured it out. What’s your excuse?
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You can make intention to have kids but its ultimately out of your hands but ya but can try your best 👌
i grew uP w/my kids & they taught me a lesson ^_^
People are crazy man. Kids are a blessing
“Children are not a distraction from more important work. They are the most important work.” — C. S. Lewis
You seem to harbor a misrepresentation of my position.
I'm not against marriage, children, or family.
I used to teach children math and critical thinking.
I applied the Golden Rule by neurologically profiling each student and then tailoring my approach to each individual in order to provide the highest possible service I could.
The original claim HODL made was that "Marriage and family is essential for a full and happy life."
That claim is false.
My wife and I are beyond our childbearing years but we still try for more. I ain’t no quitter, and open to a miracle. 🚁😂
I won’t be having any more as I shoot dust but I’ll keep practicing just for you.
So that’s what “stacking hard enough” means
I absolutely agree with the general ethos behind your post.
A lot of people have been convinced that children are a hindrance to happiness. Without a doubt I think it's important to reject that inherently anti-human narrative.
At the same time, telling other people what is best for them can only stem from arrogance. We never know what someone else's experience has been.
For example, I listened to a podcast recently where a minister and his wife had upwards of five miscarriages. I don't remember the exact number, but I'm sure you could imagine how traumatic that was.
I could never force you to empathize with anyone, and wouldn't want to, but making claims about universal truth aren't as simple as opposing prevailing negatives.
In some cases these types of statements can cause more harm than good, if you care 🤙
Assuming children wouldn’t be a transformative experience in someone’s life is also arrogance
I'm sure many of your replies are making that claim. I have not read them, or made that claim.
i feel like it’s not that complicated
Arrogance is assuming that everyone is ready to be a good parent. People who aren't ready maybe shouldn't have children.
In your framework, the well-being of the child does not seem to matter at all; only the enjoyment of the parents is what matters. Maybe buy a pet instead.
What’s a good parent in your opinion?
i grew uP w/my kids who taught me A lesson><still R teaching & enlightening my life*****
I think that's like asking to give a precise definition of sea water. It's difficult, but virtually everyone can tell apart sea water from fresh water in a blind tasting.
In the negative, I'd say a good parent is someone who isn't self-centered and doesn't humiliate his child because of his own insecurities. Someone who doesn't make his child doubt himself.
I used to believe that an acceptable parent was just someone who didn't physically abuse his child and provided food, shelter, clothing and schooling. Now I know that's not enough.
The children of openly alcoholic, drug addict, physically abusive parents are "lucky" (in a very twisted way, of course), because when they share their experience most people will understand and empathize.
But the true "genius" is when you can humiliate, ridicule, exploit and psychologically abuse your child without overstepping the socially acceptable boundary. Achieving that "sweet point" where you can maximize the abuse and the damage while maximizing the deniability. Because when the child talks about it, everyone around will just shrug and say that it was a joke, that it was nothing, that it was the child's fault, that maybe the child didn't perceive it accurately, that that's the way things are, that it's impossible because your parents love you dearly... The true "genius" is getting away with as much abuse as you can and making your child believe that it's his own fault or that it's for his own good.
Was with someone when I was younger who couldn’t have kids due to rare genetic disease, and convinced myself at the time that it wouldn’t bother me.
Sitting here now with my 2yo son asleep on my arm and another one on the way, and I’m thankful every single day that it didn’t turn out that way.
😄 let’s be upfront honest & to the point: people without children cannot know what they‘re missing in life. No knowing without doing 🤠
People usually get triggered when you hit a nerve. Deep inside they know you're right but over reacting is a lower energy consuming behaviour that actually thinking about it.
Deep down they know, and that is why it bothered them. Remember, ladies, it becomes significantly harder to have kids after 35, and that’s a regret you can never change—something to really think about. Everyone's life is their choice, which also means taking personal responsibility for the decisions they make. Just make sure they are your decisions, and not someone else's, like those pushing feminism on you, etc.
I think it’s triggering because the statement makes them come to terms with their selfishness and self centeredness…. Which is not compatible with raising healthy children
You want to trigger people? Tell them capitalism will cannibalize itself, it’s the worst at resource allocation, and a more social cohesiveness is the next step in human economic evolution.
I've never wanted to have kids until I know Bitcoin.
✅ Children (three of them)
Ya I felt the same way before my wife got pregnant. The truth is hard to hear.
3 children minimum.
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if you do not have children, you will die alone.
”Sexbots, hold my beer!”
What if you because a commercial airline pilot? Don't have to die alone then
If you have children, you will die alone.
How do you figure?
Everyone dies alone. If you have children, you will probably have more joy and connection in life. There are a few exceptions — I met an enliightened Buddhist monk (the real deal), and he was doing way better than anyone — but vast majority of humans (and he even admitted himself) would be better off having kids, something that’s obvious once you have kids.
There is a minority of miserable people who probably should not have kids for the sake of the kids.
I do not think of dying in the company of my family as dying alone. Dying alone is dying alone, with some nurse who may feign sympathy but deep down doesn’t care and will scarf a burrito in the next room as you’re gasping for air. That’s dying alone.
Nobody dies alone, Christ is with you.
Congrats if that happens to you YOU will be lucky. In my lifetime I have known dozens of parents, friends, relatives that had multiple children happy lives and just simply died alone. Lots of ways to go in this world and you don't always conveniently check out in a nursing home or at your own home surrounded by close family like in the movies. More than the other way around i am afraid imo. I literally have no idea how many kids i may have I was single in the 80's and 90's with my own pad. So theres that.
Right, you *might* be surrounded by family, but if you go without warning (which is preferable IMO), low chance you’ll have family around at that very moment. And either way, they can’t come with you.
Ideal is you’re 95, had the grandkids/great grandkids out at the country house, played with them, had a BBQ, went up to your room and just didn’t wake up the next morning. Died alone in bed after a full day with family.
It's true.
Never confuse aloneness with loneliness, I love to spend time with myself!
When you are dying alone, you will remember this moment and the regret will be unbearable.
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We live in bizarro world
People react strongly to the idea of having children because it touches the core of existence, our responsibility to life, the legacy we leave, and the fears we carry about the future. It’s not about the message, it’s about confronting our own choices and mortality.
Have kids, teach them good values, and shield them from state propaganda.
Yeah I don't think everyone should have kids but I will say if you want to have kids do not wait, kids are honestly cheap to feed etc. the clothing is expensive but you don't need a bunch of money or whatever, have them young while you've actually got the energy to raise them, to run around and play to teach them things.
Honestly I think people should have kids when they are still living with their parents, so the grandparents can help and also get to build connection with the kids.
Like 16-21 is the best age to become a parent.
Dude, stop playing dumb 😂 I know that YOU know it was the way you said it. You said it in the style of Andrew Tate when he says things by speaking in absolutes. Thinking things are super black and white like that is retarded
Epigeneticly speaking, people who do not have children can still have a huge positive effect on our populations.
On a large scale our population most likely controls itself, in relation to the carrying capacity of the physical and psychological environments we occupy.
Human productivity growth is based on the size of our population which has achieved some basic standard of living.
It could be possible there is a population sink that can form, where the population growth is greater than productivity grows the region's carrying capacity. Keeping people perpetually stuck in poverty and those who would normally stay improving standard of living find it easier to leave.
As parents we should guarantee the basic necessities so our children can start out standing on our shoulders not our feet.
This is the process of exponential growth fiat as stolen. In most families today the children are being born at the same or less standard of living than the parents generation. Forced to focus on smaller problems not greater.
Obviously bitcoin fixes this but even more.
Bitcoins effect on population very interesting topic.
Children are a fundamental good, given by the Word of Christ from the beginning of creation.
Utilitatarians and selfish will not understand this.
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Becoming a parent takes a person, if they are willing, to a higher level of maturity and fun.
Hodl, you are soul possessing your body. Your children are 'part of your bod'y' , but not of your soul. Maybe those souls have nothing to do with you.
But, if you think that this reality is 'the thing' then go for it. And that is ok. Step by step...