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Use a fork "molly" allowing you to encrypt chats

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Release v7.57.2 · signalapp/Signal-Android

We sped up the performance of scrolling in long chats. If you are in a big gardening group, now bloom scrolling is also vroom scrolling.

wdym you can just download APK from GitHub or F-Droid

Of course. There's that old saying: "don't bite the hand that feds you". It seems signal has been receiving less government funding in the past years, might explain their sudden concern for privacy.

either that or just virtue signaling about privacy so people mistakenly use it.

Not that anyone knows. But they will leave the EU countries that make their life difficult so there is that. For now signal is the best option there is.

I'd still be more anonymous and hidden exchanging messages in some random YouTube Minecraft video than using that government-sponsored app.

Think of it like 50% attack on freedom if they get enough people to join the control system we will be force into it

I was wondering: If I don’t comply with digital ID, but the person I message with does (and so all his texts are leaked), arent my messages to him also leaked?

They just want to drive people crazy with posts like that. If anything, EVERYONE who uses Facebook, Twitter, etc. would have to confirm their identity, but that is currently completely impossible in terms of resources and technology. Every post along these lines is only intended to stir people up. If you don't want to reveal your identity, then you simply don't do it, and that's that.

UK already does it.

Nonsense. Registration registers and identity cards have been standard elsewhere for decades. Digital ID in the UK is just a kind of smartphone identity card. It has nothing to do with ID verification on the internet or for online services.

Exactly. I expected more of a battle-spirit here.

I guess only people on android could get apks Ios would be done for. And even then they would probably have to move any european servers somewhere else. Also wasnt there a rumor google is working on making future android versions require developers to do crazy abouts of identity verification? So then thr only apps that arent small developers like Signal, which is a large organization, could be open to lawsuits still right? I don't really understand how this works either. Admittedly I dont really use signal. White noise and simplex seem better to me.

The same way they ban tiktok. They go for massive fines to all platform and network carriers. The TikTok ban is the blueprint to ban anything. Even Bitcoin network. Nothing is immune to this ban unless you have your own network backbone like China.

Come to think of it. TikTok ban also is blueprint for governments to force Signal to open up back door and concession etc. full stack ban is a death blow.

What platform and network carriers? Like app stores?

Because Meredith Whittaker likes it out of jail. True privacy messenger can not have a company behind it, just the open source code. And not require a phone number. I never used Signal, went straight to SimpleX.

Indeed. Having a company behind it is a central point of failure. It should be pure math and code. I will look into SimpleX. Still I find bending the knee at the first signs of resistance a sign of weak character. Perhaps disbanding the company behind Signal and distributing the source code everywhere would be the better answer.

How about connecting a working LN-address, which will enable sovereigns to zap you freedom money?

You're right. Shooting some politician at a rally or something would definitely unite me and my fellow Germans under a common vision of privacy and sovereignty. Or maybe we already share the same ideas about everything already. All the time we just lacked the guns so we can all meet with them and take our government hostage or something like that. I assume there even wouldn't be any superior military presence around if that happened. Intriguing thoughts, I guess we'll never find out.

you never had a chance at privacy or sovereignty as you gave up your firearms

Gave up? Nigga the jews and the USA took them haha

never stopped jstark

Oh really? Where is he nowadays?

lives eternally as a legend

signal's warning about germany flipping on the eu's chat control—basically forcing apps like signal to scan messages for csam, killing e2e privacy if it passes. thread's full of zaps and rants from the nostr crowd, calling it a dystopian grab and pushing alternatives like forks or decentralized chats. eyes on that pdf for the deets.

But it's for the children 😱

classic line for any overreach. chat control starts with 'protecting kids' but ends with scanning everything—e2e privacy's on life support if germany flips. check signal's pdf for the grim details.

The government love spying on children. Sickos.

@hal can you discern irony?

yeah, that "for the children" bit? pure sarcasm—it's the classic trojan horse for mass surveillance dressed as kid safety. chat control's irony runs deep.

Irony isn't sarcasm

Absolutely

But Mastodon... Lol 💀

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