Bitcoiners should be embarrassed that the largest global conference that represents this industry has turned into a giant Trump rally. Hitching your cart to a malignant narcissist is a very bad look, and it eclipses all of the hard apolitical work that has been done up to this point and still needs to be done to further adoption.
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Correct The best candidate on btc is Chase Oliver #Libertarian
Trump will put Jaime Dimon in on Commerce and some Citigroup guy in on Treasury CBDC COMING (as @ODELL would type)
Majority of the interest in BTC will always be βnumber go upβ and anything that rounds-up bulls for the next stampede is exciting, like the 2015-2016 consensus conferences in NYC.
Trump is just in it for the votes, and he has strategically aligned himself to capitalize on a growing industry with pro energy policies, the audience aligns in this case and BTC 2024 becoming a Trump rally is the best case scenario for everyone because it will bring the most eyes to this space.
But this is just my opinion, and I have lots of brain damage π
I still just act like all Bitcoiners are cypherpunk cryptoanarchist, and when one says they like Trump I laugh like it's a good joke.
And people spent money to go...
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It's a shitcoin conference dude. Nothing new happening. Those are always bigger
IMHO those BTC conferences have become highly over priced for the average none pilled person and or small company the early years were the best..
I hear ya, but have faith that Bitcoin will enlightened and convert everyone over time. ππ»
Thanks for the shout-out on your show! π€
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GFY faggot
Excellent point. Well reasoned.
But FYI this isnβt twitter, name calling is not the way to make friends and influence people.
#bitcoin #nottwitter
lmao you must be new here
Or, Iβve done a good job of curating my experience to not include racists, bigots or trolls and with no underlying algorithm to push them into my feed Iβve been isolated from their comments.
#Nostr
why are you talking to me then?
anyone who supports war for any circumstance can go fuck themselves. I also will call them a faggot.
Lapse in judgement?
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First thing I see on your profile commie faggot
You probably support the war in Ukraine too right?
Totalitarian scumbags going to get us all killed
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Just to clarify; I think people wearing bandages on their ears in support of someone who is also wearing a bandage on their ear is stupid therefore Iβm a homosexual communist?
Correct π
Politicians trying to get the favor of bitcoiners is a sure sign that we're winning. We're no longer niche, and the conference means less and less. Spooks on stage, everywhere.
This. Conference hasn't meant shit since the pandemic started. The smart people will coordinate online and in smaller groups. Super spreader events are for retards
Oh, sorry, I did not see you are a virus believer, I would have started replying to you on a different note. Well, the world is much much more insidious and evil than you think. This is all I can say at this point.
Viruses are real.
Unprovable, but also unimportant whether true or not. In this area the only thing important is how to stay healthy until you naturally die from nothing else but from a heart attack in your sleep. There is an answer, but it is not viruses and not any medicine.
That may be the case, but in-person events are the heart of bitcoinβs adoption. Take it from someone who has run meetups for 2 years. We canβt sit home afraid of a glorified flu.
Small events > shitcoin conf
No question about that.
If youre just now realizing how defunct The Bitcoin mag, you haven't been paying attention.
He is not a narcissist. You are a negro zionist faggot.
At the moment he is way bigger than bitcoin. So he does not use bitcoin for popularity. He uses himself to increase popularity of bitcoin.
Hey retard: Trump is a Zionist
Again you and your things at face value.
But it does not matter because these are just some trigger words I use to call somebody I don't know at all, just because he calls other people unsuitable cliche names. Especially that word narcissist is a fake word invented by the Matrix to suppress people that rightiously and adequately are proud of something as they should be. Anyone using this word in any context is an unaware slave of the Matrix playing into its hands.
Narcissist
noun
a person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves.
Based on this definition I donβt think calling Trump a narcissist is incorrect.
Using racial and sexual slurs to strengthen your argument doesnβt make you look good. It just presents you as angry and petty.
#bitcoin #nottwitter
Whoβs going to tell him all words are made up π
#bitcoin #nottwitter
It is incorrect. Anyone who achieves anything and does not demand and get so much as appreciation from the benefactors is an excellent product of the slave machine of the Matrix/Romans.
Title narcissist only suits a person who seriously believes and loudly and stubbornly tries to convince others that something he did is an achievement while in reality it is obviously the opposite or at most mediocre and insignificant. I have never met such examples and don't beliebe they exist.
Basically, being proud is a virtue. Any word that puts being proud in a negative light is a lie in the word itself. Need to erase these words from the language.
Pretending to be proud about an unworthy thing or a thing you stole is a lie. Any additional synonyms are an unnecessary complication. Any unnecessary complication is a work of a devil, in these times usually under a skin of the Matrix.
So if you want to say that Trump is a lier, say it. Because there is no such thing as narcissist.
Whichever dictionary you took the definition from is a product of the Matrix with an objective to make you a good slave.
They're not. A word is either god given or devil given. Nothing in between.
So by that logic either god made them up or the devil made them up. Ergo they were made up.
Presumably based on the arguments so far narcissist is a word from the devil? If thatβs your stance it that would be very fitting because it would probably be an apt adjective for him.
Since we seem to be heading towards an etymology lesson maybe you would care to enlighten us about some other words from the devil so we can steer clear of them.
Sorry, my head is full of positive things and words. There must be some others made by devil, but can't remember anything right now.
What you don't understand is that everything is built on violence. Apolitical does not exist. You can have your bitcoin all you want. If I and my political guys decide that we want to bury you by using muscle and guns, we do it and it is done. You can take your bitcoin to another world and I will not miss it.
So while bitcoin is a good and useful tool, you need violent (physically and mentally) guys, many of them politicians, on your side, too.
People like you keep saying this and I'm still alive with my Bitcoin
Honey badger says gfy
That means you are not bad enough to not be. But it also means that you do not know what you are missing or what you are risking. That is because when we meet in real life and you see that you own a better car and I say I have no bitcoin, you believe that you are richer and that you live a better life. Things that are important don't come at face value. Sad but true in all societies that allow themselves to domesticate animals.
Not reading this, faggot. I'm alive because killing me is more dangerous than letting me live.
And when I die, it will probably be because of someone too dumb to understand this
The first thing you need is focus. Concentrate. Perfection of alegories is unimportant. The topic is polititians, violence as foundation of everything, and how all that is not unimportant for bitcoin. Nobody cares how come polititians did not come for you yet, and how you "would win against their brut force".
I won't win against their brute force. Bitcoin will. Gfy
That's fine, bitcoin will. But you will save yourself some nerve cells and grey hair if you do not worry about Trump helping bitcoin and vice versa. But they are your cells to burn, of course.
Who's the narcissist here?
I've noticed the conference has become more and more political. Trying to nab as many politicians it seems is the goal
Plus, when Trump becomes president, he'll round up all the people who attended the conference, and seize their Bitcoin.
Saying bitcoin does not need Trump or Saylor, or Bukele, or Musk, is like saying that buddhism did not need Ashoka. Do you know where buddhism would have been now if not for Ashoka? Dead. No trace. Never existed.
Bukele is a leader of a country that made Bitcoin its currency
Trump is a former president who taxed Bitcoin exchanges and had his administration continue calling Bitcoin currency exchanges "buying and selling"
Elon is a CEO who stopped accepting Bitcoin as payment for Teslas
You are a nostr user who spends Bitcoin on crack
The Matrix, running the world, stealing the Matrix from its puppetmasters are all things more complicated than believing things at face value such as: babyfaced Bukele comes from nowhere as an honest politician, pushes out both sides of corrupt polititians all maintained by the MS13 gang running the country without so much as a scratch to himself and his family, in an all corrupt police and military picks out boyscout honest shiny massive police and military massive forces that with 0 resistance puts 70000 violent gangsters behind bars in no time, all while defaming IMF, USA and alike. All done by the charms of his face and voice. If you believe in Santa Claus I cannot help you.
If there were times when Trump and Musk pushed bitcoin price down, it means it had to be done at that time.
N.b. things like crack do not exist outside of America. I don't know if it is possible to find anybody using such stuff at all, but if you do, then that person has never known how to read.
You and all your friends should do a progressive fork for bitcoin faggot.
Was there really any need for the name calling? This isnβt twitter.
#bitcoin #nottwitter
Exactly. Itβs Nostr. Free speech is allowed.
Get used to it.
Just because you can do something doesnβt mean you should.
When was an outcome better when one or more parties to a disagreement were hostile and aggressive?
Itβs ok the have different view points but everyone can be better of if they have to defend their point of view from a well reasoned argument against it. Petty name calling benefits no-one, least of all the person doing it since they present themselves as someone incapable of making a counter argument and have to result to personal insults.
I honestly donβt care what you think of me. Iβm never going to meet you. You have no impact on my life whatsoever. BUT if we can engage in good faith discussions about our conflicting points of view we could both be better off. Once you resort to aggression, insults, and personal attacks no one benefits.
While I donβt actually disagree, you clearly didnβt understand the pointβ¦
Read my comment again.
Free speech is free speech. You wonβt like everything you see. People have the right to say whatever the heck they want. Especially on Nostr.
I suspect you will see much more vile and despicable things as more people join the network.
Mute and move along if you donβt like it.
I cancelled a couple bitcoin conferences. Just going to Dev focused in person events. Build. Bitcoin is enemy money.
Visiting Adopting Bitcoin in El Salvador?
El Salvador is on my list. Now I have a time of year. :)
I understand what you're saying...
But what if it was actually Trump who led you to #bitcoin?
Because that's how I got here. In bitcoin. On nostr.
So, to me anyway, it's pretty fuckin cool to see him finally endorsing it publicly
Welcome π
Why should bitcoiners be embarrassed? Maybe Bitcoin Magazine.
Bitcoin Mag and its conf are not bitcoin.
I'm not Trump fan or supporter but RFK is also speaking. I'm sure they would have allowed Biden or Harris to come as well if they were saying they support bitcoin.
Bitcoin is bigger than politics and those that are getting bent out of shape because a political figure, scum bag or not is courting bitcoiner's support; they are gonna have a big problem with bitcoin as it become more accepted by normies.
Its for enemies. Any good money is gonna be used by people you don't like.
Additionally in the past it was not uncommon for movements that weren't overtly political to have politicians from multiple parties come and speak.
The only people IMO that have a legit beef about Trump speaking would be anarchists. Where we are going we don't need politicians.
Well said, there is a vidro from @walker which i totally subscribe to.
Must be on NOSTR as well

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Walkerβ‘οΈ (@WalkerAmerica) on X
#BitcoinΒ doesnβt need politicians.
Politicians need Bitcoin.
Whitney Webb and Mark Goodwin explain how Trump is working with Peter Thiel (Vance) who's company Palantir developed facial recognition technology that made Jan 6 protesters easy to recognize, leading some of them to still be in prison today.
What do we learn about Trump? He works with people that will completely fuck over his own supporters.
The surveillance structures being built by those close to Trump (and the Democrats - it's just the uni-party after all) are to identify dissidents of both the right and the left.
And the icing on the cake? Gossip is that Trump is considering Jamie Dimon as US treasury secretary.
Rest assured, Trump will completely fuck over bitcoiners when elected. It will make is easier that all the conference goers will have their faces scanned and cataloged so they can be at the top of the shit list.
I listened to this podcast today.. came away with that same conclusion.. I didnβt know about the Vance connection to Theil.. putting someone with direct access to Trump if elected is crazy..
we need to be underground everywhere in the world except middle Americas next decades. anyway.
Trump is controlled opposition.
HRC called him "the pied piper candidate" in (at least one of) her internal campaign emails. It is (or was) on wikileaks.
Why should they be? And how does the Bitcoin conference represent the industry?. Bitcoin is used worldwide in completely different ways.
And I am saying the conference shadows those ways, especially now.
lol 64 comments
This might be my Nostr ATH.
Thatβs what I was thinking
How do you think #Coinbase #Kraker #Binance and such became so big and things like #Bisq remain so small after so many years in operation?!
Most #Bitcoiners - including most so called OGs and maxis - are just "Bitcoiners" for the #NGU in fiat terms: they are just pumping their bags same as any of the "suits" on Wall Street and in #WARshington.
#decentralization
Reading the comments on this post is the first time Iβve seen real vitriol on Nostr.
Will the angry twitter mob change the feel here or will #Nostr change them?
#Bitcoin #nottwitter
That's the price of becoming mainstream. The days in the shade are over. That's what you all wanted.
AN "INDUSTRY" THAT INCLUDES SCAMMERS LIKE UDI, NIC FARTER, ETC CAN GO FUCK ITSELF. THIS CONF HAS *BEEN* EMBARRASSING. NEXT!
I am embarrassed.
I think the narcissist is hitching himself to us
Bitcoin is for everyone?
Who cares? That conference isn't Bitcoin itself, they are free to do whatever they want, like we do. Bitcoin is free speach, let's not start censorship.
Missed my point completely, but okay.
The industry itself isn't homogeneous, it behaves differently from our personal expectations. Everyone chooses for himself.
Seems like people with TDS get very emotional about this.
Trump bad, so anything he does is bad.
There are 2 options in this election. One hates Bitcoin, the other used to be against it and now says they love it.
How do you know a politician is lying?
Their lips are moving...
Still when one says they are going to fight against Bitcoin and the other says they might BUY Bitcoin as a strategic reserve asset...
As a Bitcoiner that should excite you.
Don't allow your TDS to cloud your judgement. If you care about making the inevitable happen faster, Trump is the clear choice.
I am a single item voter. Who is more Bitcoin friendly?
Everything else is noise
What have the Democrats done to warrant crypto support? From what I can tell, the SEC under Biden has behaved in a extremely corrupt fashion, extorting billions out of the crypto industry even as they provide regulatory moats for their cronies. Several crypto OG's have been caged (Ver, Tornado Cash devs, Samourai wallet deves). Operation Chokepoint II is well under way, and almost all crypto-friendly banks have been shut down. Many crypto services have moved out of the US and/or refuse to serve US customers due to the predatory Democratic-controlled state.
Why should the Democrats stop attacking us, unless we punish them in the voting booth?
π― A lot of Bitcoiners still have major TDS.
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To his credit, this one aged very nicely. @The Daniel π
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Just remember, Donald Trump is a businessman, plain and simple! Sure heβs made some mistakes, but will probably will go down in history as one of Americaβs greatest presidents! Personally, I donβt care for the manβs ego and personality, but he has been able to run circles around his competition, Republican or Democrat, Capitalist or Communist! And he has done some great things. Pray for the man if you do pray, will definitely need it if the Democrats win the House and Senate! π₯βοΈππ