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What if a just God revealed himself to humanity and requires repentance? Who lives a good life? We all fall short of His glory.

He is merciful. The gap between those trying and the rest is massive.

The quote from Marcus Aurelius is therefore deceiving my brother!

Meh. If there is to be judgement, it isn't pass/fail on the question of repentance timed properly in a death bed.

Sorry man, this is what is canon: either perfect timing of repentance etc or straight to the lake of fire

Too much fuckery of men over hundreds of decades for me to accept the book as pure truth. We all cherry pick as we're all sinners. I'm assured In my relationship with God that I'm good with my position.

How are you assured?

The whole point of agnosticism is you cannot possibly know what that facts are of the origin of earth and man.

I am blessed, and I feel at peace. I don't know how it gets better than that.

The old canon even worst when their god kill a lot of innocent ppl just because one guy committed a mistake.

Faith is trust, and trust is established through a reasoned assessment and assurance that the object of that faith is trustworthy. Faith is neither blind nor superstitious no wishful thinking nor *only* personal. Reducing faith to merely a personal relationship with Christ that has no real weight of objective truth behind it and no real requirements on the world is antithetical to the Biblical definition of faith and is one of the biggest reasons the West is on the suicidal path it has taken.

Reducing the worlds problems to "y'all mfers need Jesus" negates that the crusades were done in the name of Christ. Jesus was an individual savior, nothing you can do will save your nation or family. Sire I believe all those miracles happened, but there is 0 way to say they objectively happened, so they cannot, by definition, be objective truth. Your "requirements" are works based salvation... Papist go home lol

There is a way to say they happened objectively: direct perception. Unfortunately most of us are still a long ways away from the ability to make that perception. It’s inspiring enough having the perceptions I am already having on the path. PS True faith is that perception only partially conscious.

Kinda...sorta...in a way...not really though. KJV was based primarily on Tyndale's work. Tyndale was executed as a heretic decades before James even became king.

Yes! The aliens that 3d printed the earth and everything on it were super clever!!!

Created? Someone? How? I don't see any evidence of simulation theory.

So should i go through the motions if I don't believe? Wouldn't God see through this?

Definitely would. I think people always struggle with faith, no matter who you are. All I can tell you is that I am going through the motions myself and it’s only made me better. And I have more belief than I did before I started.

Believe what? It’s not clear what is at stake.

Perhaps you would develop faith. I was raised going to church and stopped going after I moved out of my parents. I am trying to read the bible for the first time now.

Pascal wants his wager back.

I’m in a similar situation but we didn’t actually go when I was young. So far the faith has been more like developing a muscle over time rather than a 100% on, 100% off type thing. Just my experience.

I kinda feel like worshipping the wrong god would be more offensive to God than just living a decent life and not being a bigot. God is probably more offended by hate from fake Christians towards the rest of humanity than anything else.

Christian god will send you for the flames same as another god follower

All in a days work