This will likely be the last year of damus. Will try my best to make this thing sustainable, but nostr clients don’t make money and I once funding runs dry its over as I can only burn saving for so long. Glad I was able to help play a small part in this regardless of what happens. Going to give it my all next year to try to keep the dream alive. Thanks for coming along for the ride ✌️
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I think it's useful to talk about the skills and tools that are needed.
While up until now the skills that you (probably?) needed were programming, memory optimization, UX, user requests and the tools were libraries, ChatGPT, Algorithms, ObjC… the next steps will require you to use different skills & tools.
The needed skills are more towards leadership, planning&prioritization, raising funds, marketting and your tools will be people, connections, processes, coordination/partnerships with other businesses.
And note here that learning skills requires effort, but also note that it essentially requires the same approach like learning a new programming language. Watch youtube videos, get a book, try&fail couple times, practice…
Now just to brainstorm couple ideas for what could be done:
- create a list of all potental ideas that could bring in money and sort those by "result/cost" (= bang-for-buck)
- ask for donations once a month (post a note, do a popup in the app…)
- gather funds in any way possible (create project on geyser.fund, reach out to opensats, hrf, jack…), make it clear to your friends that you need money for Damus.
- create a complementary product targetted at businesses (not end customer) and sell them what they need. Handle the Nostr infra for them, etc.
- get a part time job next to Damus
- sign up for incubator, for new app competitions, etc.
- you may be able to get a loan
- freeze work on Damus for couple years until there's much bigger userbase
- if you would want to go to the VC/Angel route, you can likely get couple bitcoiner angel investors (I think you could get $200k@5M pre-money fairly reasonably). With others we would be happy to support you this way even if we are unlikely see the money back. That said it's also fair to say no.
I understand this 110%, have been thinking the same for @Relayable.org since as the price of #bitcoin went up the donations dried up with the exception of a few awesome nostriches. 🤙🫂
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Inject ads into the feed. Don't over complicate it.
I don't sympathise.
Bitcoin Maxis poo poo shitcoiners but they have something we don't: *they know what people want*. So it pays to clip our noses, dive in the sewer and backspat some shitcoiner types (explore-exploit).
As to devs complaining FOSS doesn't pay i don't agree. i've seen one dev complain about their app which allowed users 10 torrents going at the same time on a free version. Why didn't they just make the free version 3 max, a pro-paid 10 and allow anyone, giving detailed, secure and working instructions, to build the pro without paying if they wanted to so keep the FOSS ethos?
On #nostr why am i always context switching? Every time i context switch to upload a longer video to be hosted so i can link it here etc is a lost income for the dev.
** #contextswitching is lost money.**
i've also spoken abou t #ti pQ without success.
But supposedly "nostr doesn't pay".
This has been solved
People will pay if they get value.
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Boi we got u this ship ain't stoppin'!
Not stopping on my time chain watch. We got u @jb55
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What is the best way to contribute. I like Damus a lot Primal doesn’t work on my phone at all not sure why posted about numerous. Damus just works!!!!
Damus reliability is still in its infancy. Soon it will work offline and in very low bandwidth situations. Reliably and efficiency will always be the priority. The new client architecture I’ve been working on is pretty mind blowing, can’t wait to demo it.
Damus is awesome! I enjoy the you all continue to innovate as well as keep it operating smoothly. How do we support the team? How can we get involved to make the run way longer
You blue balling bastard!
I want it just as bad, it’s coming together slowly.
I see what you did there. 💸
I wrote to you about a donation but you ignored me.
Why not get funding from bitcoin-only VC? They are a few good one out there that truly understand
Considering it
Let us know how we can help keep it alive. Paid version/features?
We’ve been working on that all last month. We have a few features that I think are pretty useful (high quality translations that don’t need configuration). So it wouldn’t be just a donation subscription which is just ugh to me.
Yeah I hear that. Well whatever it is, you’ve got one customer here when it’s ready 🫡
Why should a nostr client need centralized hardware ? I thought the idea was a nostr client runs in client machine ( laptop or smartphone) ...
web interface should be optional .. only if the developer is supported by web-bros ..
I appreciate your work in making the internet opensource and decentralised.
@jb55 earned my hard respect when I learned what he has built to make this community what it is.
He deserves the utmost accolades and awards, and probably a few #bitcoin for all his work.
This year will see some radical evolutions in the #nostrvrse, and I hope the OG, @Damus and @jb55 get credit where credit is due.
Thanks for all the fish! (And #zaps and #npubs, and more!! )
LFG 🙌🏼
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