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You asked and people replied. I didn't read any angry posts. I didn't post an angry post. This isn't an angry post. You all need to keep your emotions in check and read what's written without projecting 🤷‍♂️

Guess I won't be trying Damus Android, then.

You mean like @brugeman 's Spring app? Check out

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it uses WebRTC to connect your computer's browser extension with your phone over local WiFi. In the current implementation the phone opens a webpage (which may be opened with Spring) to do the signing - but it could be Damus. #NoteGuardian

I actually find it a bit humourous how excitable people get about their nsec. God forbid someone steals your identity of your identity of posting stupid notes and memes on nostr. I can't think of anything that is more "throw away" than a nostr nsec. I raw dog my nsec all the time. I don't really care. I run my own relays and I have nip-05 No reason to be precious about it.

Because copy-pasting the nsec on random clients feels like sleeping around without condoms

Foda-se o Amber! Odeio esse app.

Are you familiar with the Android app called #Keychat? With it I have access to all Nostr web apps like using a browser with nos2x extension, but for use @npub1h0uj...rwx8 I use Amber.

Interesting approach. Sounds similar to WeChat.

I like the use of Amber. But. also like developers, which have the guts to try new stuff. When Amber will be hacked before Damus, you will might be true. When there is an exploit on Damus, it will be might been a stupid idea. When nothing of it will be exploited, then it will probably only be a decision. And everyone chooses what they prefer. Thanks for your thoughts in facilitating onboarding 🙌🫵🥳

it's probably friction an android the majority of nostr users already use amber. To try out a new app with amber it's just one tab vs do I trust this app? where is my nsec, copy paste

what about bunker support?

Amber is good because you can be very selective of the events you choose to sign. For example, I think Amethyst drafts suck, so I kill them with Amber. And for the first time, this security model is even possible. It's a shame not to even consider it, and stick to the idea that external dependencies are bad. It's actually worse to have everything all in one. I would even get rid of Amber if I could run a remote signer on a server at home and operate completely with bunker uris. Your nsec is forever, and the number of clients that demand it will only increase. The less you have to copy it around, the better. So welcome to the land of freedom I guess. This isn't Apple's walled garden anymore where your users are all sheep.

Its the current state of the internet, everyone gets mad about anything 🤣🤣 Also I don't get why it's so hard for you to just add an option for it. It also doesn't help that every time you talk it looks like you want that only your platform exists and everyone should give up and just use that, that's not how it works

thanks for that explanation, it changes my opinion significantly. I was misunderstanding

Wait until they start accusing you of being malicious 😂

Come on JB that's almost too simple. A build-in - isolated - signer for events? That's like doing a Bitcoin transaction on the main-net without cold card, seedsigner, air gapping a laptop to create the transaction then using another laptop to broadcast the transaction all of that while making coffee with one hand while smoking a reefer with the other hand. Stop making life easy! This is outrageous! 😉

Sorry Will I respect your opinion and love the work you're doing with notedeck but you're wrong here. Remote signers like Amber give you more security and flexibility. I get why you're not building it, it does add complexity with the way you've been building the app, but it'd absolutely worth it because it enables a lot of functionality (such as in the future external hardware based signers)

Why is the being called Amber support? It’s Nip-46, hopefully there is more than just Amber someday.

you could create a signer process, give it some socket FDs, and then the signer process assigns privileges to each FD + locks itsslf down then the main process passes the FDs to the different processes

So add the signing logic of NIP55 to damus, so that it can be used as signer for other apps. Now all apps that do use amber currently, work out of the box with damus as signature provider.

Much better to let devs try different things. That's how we got damus in the first place. Which is a big reason we have nostr today