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Don't let them continue to #lie that they didn't post this shitnover the past 2 days.

I'm not disagreeing, but trained how?

Not to get too graphic, but a single 200 yard shot of a small, moving target from an elevated position… That’s not some guy that got angry and bought a gun at Walmart last week. That’s someone who has sighted in a rifle, loads his own ammo so that he knows the grain #, knows how relative weather conditions will factor in, etc. That’s a miss for 99.9% of people but the assassin only had to shoot once. Plus he (presumably a male) had a spot picked out and clear escape as he is still at large. And let’s not pretend like shooting people is easy. I’ve shot deer and it’s extremely hard to stay calm. I can’t imagine the gravity of aiming at a human being.

I'm not sure how your reply would be "graphic" but understand given the current generations sentiment of being triggered. 150m is more likely. I grew up in a community where shooting deer at this range was not uncommon. Loading their own ammo? I disagree wholeheartedly. I hit this range of targets very easily during qualifications in the military with crappy training ammo with iron sights, no optics.... And sighting in iron sights for this range is realitivley easy to learn if you are motivated to learn shooting basics. It doesn't require somebody to be trained. Just an understanding of marksmanship basics. I agree targeting a human is a different requirement of staying calm. I don't understand how you would say this is presumably a male. I grew up with country girls that could shoot as good, if not better, than their brothers.

And I want to make it clear that this argument is meant to counter any insane premature conclusions that it was professional hit. It isn't that far fetched given what we know. Speculating that it is a trained spook or something doesn't do anything but erode the societal fabric that is already being ripped apart.

1000 to 1 odds it’s a male. Name even one female shooter in all of the mass shootings, or any other political assassination in the history of the US. Hitting a deer at 150-200 yards is much different than hitting a guy in the neck. You could be right though. It’s been a few years since I’ve been to the range. I’ve shot .223 at long range before, like 400-500 yards. But that’s multiple shots at a target sheet. I don’t think I could hit a 3 inch pattern, for instance.

Looks like the shot hit a bulletproof vest and the bullet fragmented / slid off upward into his neck.

It's the US. You just named like 150 million people.

Sure, but you have to add in positioning, escape, and double patsies creating a distraction. It was profession in that this was well orchestrated and planned. Military, likely israel involved.

One thing we can say for sure is this will push Epstein and every other news story off the agenda for a while. Hmmm…

That’s my exact argument against everyone who swiftly attacked “Leftists” for this murder. This morning the investigators are saying video evidence points to a college age individual, so that doesn’t sound like a professional spook.

Of course. Worst case, head shot. Literally nobody aims for the neck.

The neck is the exit wound he was shot under his right ear from the right of the stage

Someone trained who was trying to make it look untrained would do exactly this no?

in that case then yeah , could have been someone that knows how to shoot and was aware that kirk was likely wearing armor - but as far as a "pro", why not just use a 338 LM or anything that can defeat armor and shoot center mass for a much better chance of success?

anything is possible - someone said the entry was actually in the head....so it could be a pro using amatuer tools and techniques to obfuscate things. I would think a pro would use a 338 LM or another armor defeating caliber, and just shoot center mass, for the best chance of success

This is the cut version of the video. There's a muzzle flash in the window directly above the tent.

Do you have that video?

That was a squib

Lol. It's not hard for my 15 year old son, it's dead easy for me, and I only shoot a few times per month. For all we know he aimed for the head and hit the neck, or aimed for center mass andisded, hitting the neck. Nobody aims for the next, but even so, a 6" target st 200 is possible on open sights, not hard with a red dot, and on 2-6x, easy as shit.

Anybody that hunts west of the Mississippi can make a 200 yd shot.

Good poinrs. My assumption was that the shot was placed where intended. For the record, I said the x-ring (~1.5" dia). That's difficult for an amateur at 200 yards. I'm an amateur, and it's hard for me at 100 yards (on the first shot).

Probably not anybody, but most.

200 yards is point blank with a. scope

He might be referencing the fact it was someone who could get away unnoticed on a campus that likely has cameras, as well as additional security measures in place for that event, since it was a crowd of a couple thousand.

Eh come on man, dude clearly chilled a bit and reflected more. Normal human thing to do… Don’t be the guy that acts like he’s perfect…

i'm not perfect. just funny that now that it isn't obvious the shooter is a "left wing nutjob" and is a young white male again (surprise surprise) Marty now has had a chance to "chilled a bit and reflected more" The correct response is to admonish the person who actually made the mistake here, which was marty jumping to conclusions and making a very widespread post as if what he was saying was fact. Instead you admonish the person who points out the issue. Shrug

Zaps self