I've been dealing with Bitcoin since pre-2013, and I've gotta say I've never seen it feel as powerful as it does on Nostr. The instant, effectively-free transactions that spring from having so many people on Lightning Addresses is like arriving on a different planet.
Most people's experience with Bitcoin payments -- if they even have it -- is a 30-60 minute wait for mining + two-plus block confirmations, and a fee that made it feel dumb to send less than $20. Most people don't want that. They don't need that. They will never care about that. Some do -- I did -- but it's a permanent minority. This is what makes lightning-fast settlements a big deal.
When normal people and businesses realize that global money transfers can be borderless, instant, free, and only take like two clicks, I think things are going to get very interesting. Still need to cover a lot of road on the privacy problem, but this already feels better than everything naked on-chain.
The hardest problem has always been making it easy for people who don't care about Bitcoin to accept Bitcoin (tender resistance) -- without requiring them to start caring about Bitcoin.
The way you do that is by making it "better than money." We're not there yet for everybody, but for the first time in many years, I caught a glimpse of how it might be possible.
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Lightning Network is empowering the decentralized normie movement.
So glad you are here.
Let the prophecy unfold. A decentralized, censorship-resistant future for all.
This is the tipping point for sure! Party on
Making people use bitcoin without caring about it is slowly happening. Apps like fountain already let people people fund their custodial wallets with fiat and send sats to support podcast. This is only the beginning. Music and e-commerce will likely be impacted in a major way too. I could even see it take over the SaaS world with sats streaming per usage. No need for subscriptions anymore.
I was against the Bitcoin since I've met Nostr ppl. I used to think Bitcoiners are bunch of ppl who make leverages to multiply their money. This place changed that perception for me.
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Fully agree!
It's going to be a pretty interesting transition, pretty sure micropayments will unlock business models we have not yet thought of the same way app stores/cloud computing/gps/smartphones created new ones
As for nostr and LN, I think this is a fascinating competition between ad-driven models and those that have "got to the top"/become influencers and have growth hacked the algo feeds into getting more impressions and turning that into a business
I am sure saying outlandish things will still work to an extent on a service that has no algo curation but its impact will be limited, also with incentives not being centred around pleasing 1 or 2 brands and rather around keeping a loyal audience, it really could shift the way people interact online
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Well said!
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Absolutely! Working in the Lightning space for me started with the feeling that this really is the change that we all need. Specifically all the new use cases!
But now with nostrβ¦these are the times to get on! Lightning and nostr is a perfect combination! β‘οΈπ¦β‘οΈ
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Thank you to the one who sends the sats.
Color me surprised that you support WEF lightning you antihuman spiteful garbage if you are not just a sim. https://xmrposter.club/objects/32e634bd-5151-4017-a10c-9bfb41db3448
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You are loosing. Stop lying snow faggot and playing dumbfuck.
Arenβt you worried about LN possible centralization? Honest question. I am trying it now for the first time.
So true
please try twetch.app it is better and its real bitcoin
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Take this motherfuckers central bankers! We coming to eat your lunch!
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Bitcoin. Better than money. (Thanks to #nostr.)
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Frankly, it pales in comparison to the implementation on my Minecraft server. β‘ is amazing.
β‘ On a UX level sending a lightning payment is so much simpler than traditional finance, mitigating all those input hurdles such as address and bank numbers. Of course the most powerful bitcoin lightning feature is full sovereignry. Your bank can stop your payments for no reason and demand explanation for withdrawals. Your dollars are the bank's dollars.
I am, however, concerned that lots of people use custodial wallets like Alby or so-called "Wallet of Satoshi". Call me a maximalist, but that kinda defeats the purpose of cryptocurrencies...
Donβt disagree but would argue the point of Lightning is that itβs βeasyβ. If you treat it like a checking account it facilitates the international settlement benefits Ed describes above. Never to hold anything on lightning that you couldnβt afford to looseβ¦thatβs what cold storage is for.
Not there yet for everybody, but soon.
Give us another 7 months.
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When we solve for transaction fees, the friction to adopt goes away. Effectively free, bid spread fee, somethingβbut must be damn close to free before miners can focus on that problem in 2140
How this post only 22 zaps??
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Just gonna drop a meme
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Thanks for the insights... that is an awesome take!
Bru right there with you! I have bought all my drugs with bitcoin at a discount!
One day it will be the same with commodities, exp; your purchase at the supermarket will have cheaper options if you use bitcoin. Just imagine
@Edward Snowden It hurts both my brain and heart, that so many FOSS developers advocating for open protocols and open networks have given in to cynical anti-bitcoin FUD, and positioned themselves against a truly open-source, decentralized, permissionless, inclusive, fast, and cheap alternative to the utterly centralized, controlled, surveilled, exclusive, proprietary, corporate currencies and payment systems of the world.
Lightning works.