I have lost all trust in almost everything in the Bitcoin/Nostr space in terms of security.
From hardware wallets including the most popular Bitcoin-only ones, to wallet services, to Nostr apps, to LN wallet softwareβ¦
AI slop will only make this worse. This entire ecosystem is built like a house of cards.
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Well said. There are really some abominable security practices out there. And much of the anti establishment attitude and "rebel dev" self-promotion does enough to cover it up and create a sense of false security in the community.
that's concerning π±π
I do see a lot of devs self-promotion here but that is not a problem though as long as the app covers non-functional requirements eg security π¬ β it does what it says on the tin too
To be fair, security is hard and nobody or organization is perfect, including me.
And nothing wrong with self promotion, especially in open source where funding is scarce or non-existent. But too much overconfidence can be misleading to self and others.
π― agree. I support self-promotion. this thread started with curiosity and now it is turning into a much bigger critical conversation for nostr if we truly want this to grow and get adapted universally.
I raised questions so I can reach out to the right people. π€βΊοΈ
2025 Bitcoiners are plebs. They care not for security and privacy.
You can see it by how they treat Monero, one of, if not the most solid community project out there.
Bitcoin cultured topped in 2017. Few understand.
2017 culture with the ICO's was so much worse than it is today. 2013 was where it was at.
I said it topped in 2017. 2013 was the year with biggest momentum. That was indeed THE time.
Eh π€
i just got a couple emails over past few days to reset pwd for one of those wallet services you mentioned and did NOT request it. Don't keep much sats on there but never saw one of those before. I wont throw them under the bus but paying close attention to all that you mentioned going forward. Thx for heads up. Do not trust verify.
Are Bitcoin and Nostr going to fail?π«
Time to build your own
Many people in the space are far too confident about their competency in cyber security. I've worked in it full time for years, I involve myself in lab training and I am still sure I know very little.
Cryptocurrencies being associated with hackers in pop culture is to mostly blame for this. Using a couple apps and a HWW gets people over their heads. Growing anti-intellectualism by influencers (grifters offering to teach you better than a degree or an industry vet), unvetted GenAI content and a purity test mindset harms the movement.
People are too confident to go against what every major company security team says. Working in technology doesn't immediately qualify someone as cyber security aware, never mind an expert.
People always make basic mistakes. Cryptocurrency companies and people get pwned all the time.
This is still because of a dependent mindset. Bitcoin security represents self-responsibility, being sensible about your context, and in harmony with your own skills. Trust yourself more than any entity or hardware or software. Keep it simple, keep it safe.
I hope we will move away from credentialism
They are all specialists of knowing nothing about.. π
Come to the Dark Forest, we are waiting for you to use your skills to build real deals, you are better than all this guys.
Come build ''nostr 2.0'' with like minded people, and forget this guys, they don't know what they are doing, and as the years pass it is worst and worst.
There is no space for guys like us here, don't waste more time, is a lost battle, they are all pushing to the other side of freedom.
Oh well, I guess Bitcoin is gonna fail
Welcome to the "PaPer' Bitcoin standard.
Where everybody but a select few trade IOUs day in and day out to "make it" in the fiat hamster wheel.
We are so fucked.
What the fuck are you talking about?
tails + xpassxc + sparrow
and borderwallets and/or shamir for backup.
is that bulletproof? no.
is there a better option? also no.
you can't even trust any hw (e. g. intel me) anyway.
Thanks for this, looking into Borderwallets and shamir now, new to me. xpassxc is now keepassxc, correct?
Yeah this is what use:
KeePassXC Password Manager
KeePassXC Password Manager