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If nostr were the answer, people like me would be building on it. Ask yourselves who the builders are that aren't choosing nostr, and why. Then ask yourselves what all the people building here have in common. Then compare these groups earnestly. I dont just mean Bitcoiners vs Bluehairsky. I mean their experience, talent, and reputation. I mean the most talented and resourceful people; people that innovate, and have deep expertise. Why aren't they leaving where they are to build here? Examples: Bitcoin Core devs, shitcoin expert devs that really do want to fix things, talented cryptographers, deeply experienced systems/p2p people, experienced entrepreneurs, reputable VCs and funders. The closest I see here are people that got Bitcoin-rich and are now learning how to be angels by naively funding their friends and dead-end startup projects that arent much better than weekend hackathon submissions. A sandbox for playing. Everything worth anything here is a subdivision of Bitcoin culture itself and Bitcoin privilege. Bitcoin is the only provider of talent and resources to Nostr. That worked great to bootstrap from nothing, but now what? Deal with this, and figure out how to be relevant to other people, or Nostr will continue to be nothing more than a perpetual hackathon sandbox subsidized by a Bitcoiner ego-cult.

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"Jews own everything" was such an alien word 2 years ago, and ever since that phrase started accumulating popularity a tendency toward low operation cost Apps has skyrocketed because it's the only way to guarantee zero Jewish influence I'm here because of jews and most of new comers If you can't address the reality around us then you can have fun staying politically correct any where other than nostr and get more reach, PUSSY.
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If nostr were the answer, people like me would be building on it. Ask yourselves who the builders are that aren't choosing nostr, and why. Then ask yourselves what all the people building here have in common. Then compare these groups earnestly. I dont just mean Bitcoiners vs Bluehairsky. I mean their experience, talent, and reputation. I mean the most talented and resourceful people; people that innovate, and have deep expertise. Why aren't they leaving where they are to build here? Examples: Bitcoin Core devs, shitcoin expert devs that really do want to fix things, talented cryptographers, deeply experienced systems/p2p people, experienced entrepreneurs, reputable VCs and funders. The closest I see here are people that got Bitcoin-rich and are now learning how to be angels by naively funding their friends and dead-end startup projects that arent much better than weekend hackathon submissions. A sandbox for playing. Everything worth anything here is a subdivision of Bitcoin culture itself and Bitcoin privilege. Bitcoin is the only provider of talent and resources to Nostr. That worked great to bootstrap from nothing, but now what? Deal with this, and figure out how to be relevant to other people, or Nostr will continue to be nothing more than a perpetual hackathon sandbox subsidized by a Bitcoiner ego-cult.
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Nostr attracts people who post content the average person isn't interested in. It's that simple. People joined Facebook in order to connect with friends, Twitter in order to connect with the world, Instagram in order to share photos, etc. There's no "you join Nostr in order to" that is appealing to the average person (nobody here is average). But I genuinely think this will change soon.
build fun stuff for Main Street that kills their math taxes. can people play casino games and next-gen lottery and bet on real events? can people crowdsource work and crowdfund moonshots? how many animal shelters and sanctuaries repost here?
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It's over guys. I'm moving @Zapstore to Pubky, the akshually open protocol that needs an invite code to create an account. After all, it's where the coolest p2p wizards, world-class entrepreneurs and VCs hang out. I'm tired of being a nostr loser working this "freedom tech" nonsense bubble. Now is the time to become a shitcoin expert dev that really does want to fix things. View quoted note →
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Big Bad John's avatar Big Bad John
If nostr were the answer, people like me would be building on it. Ask yourselves who the builders are that aren't choosing nostr, and why. Then ask yourselves what all the people building here have in common. Then compare these groups earnestly. I dont just mean Bitcoiners vs Bluehairsky. I mean their experience, talent, and reputation. I mean the most talented and resourceful people; people that innovate, and have deep expertise. Why aren't they leaving where they are to build here? Examples: Bitcoin Core devs, shitcoin expert devs that really do want to fix things, talented cryptographers, deeply experienced systems/p2p people, experienced entrepreneurs, reputable VCs and funders. The closest I see here are people that got Bitcoin-rich and are now learning how to be angels by naively funding their friends and dead-end startup projects that arent much better than weekend hackathon submissions. A sandbox for playing. Everything worth anything here is a subdivision of Bitcoin culture itself and Bitcoin privilege. Bitcoin is the only provider of talent and resources to Nostr. That worked great to bootstrap from nothing, but now what? Deal with this, and figure out how to be relevant to other people, or Nostr will continue to be nothing more than a perpetual hackathon sandbox subsidized by a Bitcoiner ego-cult.
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What a cringe post 😂 the people are temporary, the tech is forever. What a dumb critique. There are many people on nostr I don’t like either, but that doesn’t justify shit. Bitcoin is the money of enemies because its trust-minimized, so shall nostr be for communication.
When I was orange-pilling a friend, she said something like "they should make it easier to buy bitcoin." With Nostr as with Bitcoin there is no they; there's only us. If you think Nostr has potential, YOU figure out how to make it relevant to other people. In the meantime, we're all doing that in our own way here.
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Projection? Maybe you're the ego-cult? How many of us shitty devs have you tried to recruit into your invite only Rube Goldberg machine building ... "enterprise" without delivering a thing you dare to show publicly? You've been recruiting since at least two years. I take this message of you as your farewell. Come back when you can show something.
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Big Bad John's avatar Big Bad John
If nostr were the answer, people like me would be building on it. Ask yourselves who the builders are that aren't choosing nostr, and why. Then ask yourselves what all the people building here have in common. Then compare these groups earnestly. I dont just mean Bitcoiners vs Bluehairsky. I mean their experience, talent, and reputation. I mean the most talented and resourceful people; people that innovate, and have deep expertise. Why aren't they leaving where they are to build here? Examples: Bitcoin Core devs, shitcoin expert devs that really do want to fix things, talented cryptographers, deeply experienced systems/p2p people, experienced entrepreneurs, reputable VCs and funders. The closest I see here are people that got Bitcoin-rich and are now learning how to be angels by naively funding their friends and dead-end startup projects that arent much better than weekend hackathon submissions. A sandbox for playing. Everything worth anything here is a subdivision of Bitcoin culture itself and Bitcoin privilege. Bitcoin is the only provider of talent and resources to Nostr. That worked great to bootstrap from nothing, but now what? Deal with this, and figure out how to be relevant to other people, or Nostr will continue to be nothing more than a perpetual hackathon sandbox subsidized by a Bitcoiner ego-cult.
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I've been following this on & off all day and I still fail to see what this guy is trying to accomplish here besides possibly poaching some developers or users? It comes across as very unprofessional. All the points he's brought up have been discussed openly, with multiple ideas and proposals floated in a constructive, maybe sometimes contentious, fashion in the past. I have seen no reason to doubt the integrity of anyone who has chosen to take on the difficult tasks.
"Ask yourself who the buikders are that aren't choosing nostr and why" Immediately went to your pubky site and there is no link to your github (or even download via fdroid) so I could even possibly assess what are the benefits of the development you're doing without having google involved, so that is a red flag. Uses aurora store, to download and immediately doesn't work without an invite code, red flag. So what actually am I supposed to compare nostr to? Don't say centralized services either because sure having builders is cool, but most of those folks will admit to you that they are sacrificing some of their own principles because the pay is good. Like I guarantee you if you go ask engineers on Facebook about the fact that it's fucked up that no one outside fb can use the data they will agree.
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I tried it too. I was not interested in accepting the pubky terms, did anyway, then the app could not connect to any servers and I closed it as useless Compared to almost any actually permissionless Nostr app, this is … not working BUT PEOPLE LIKE HIM WOULD BUILD ON NOSTR IF NOSTR WORKED, you know, if only we could all communicate easily via this protocol John sounds like a shitcoiner trying to convince people to join his DAO
Since I only understand Japanese, I'm using a translation app. I apologize if any expressions come across as rude. I'd like to try things like pkar, pkdns, and Mainline DHT, and would be grateful if I could receive an invitation code if possible. Also, is Pubky Ring still not available in Japan?
1. Nostr doesn't need people like you. Ego is not a skill set that pervades Nostr. This is not Twitter. 2. First impressions from your statement- predatory, monetizing and attempts to undermine the vibrant culture growing from the roots up. Not from the tree tops down. 3. Take the time to check out Jack Dorsey, Jeff Booth, Lyn Alden - all of them and many others like them are here educating dumb asses like me, and I'm grateful. 4. So get down from that tree top and stop Godomizing yourself .
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Bitcoin is succeeding because centralized FIAT failed. Nostr will succeed when centralized social medias fail. It just needs to be ready when the time comes. To answer your question. You have a very centralized way to think. I don't believe that a good idea is automatically adopted by everyone.
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The reason @Big Bad John hates Nostr is because he's being paid by Tether to develop a competing project. Simple as that. The same goes for the rest of the Twitter influencers, the reason they all hate Nostr is because they're being paid by Elon.
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If nostr were the answer, people like me would be building on it. Ask yourselves who the builders are that aren't choosing nostr, and why. Then ask yourselves what all the people building here have in common. Then compare these groups earnestly. I dont just mean Bitcoiners vs Bluehairsky. I mean their experience, talent, and reputation. I mean the most talented and resourceful people; people that innovate, and have deep expertise. Why aren't they leaving where they are to build here? Examples: Bitcoin Core devs, shitcoin expert devs that really do want to fix things, talented cryptographers, deeply experienced systems/p2p people, experienced entrepreneurs, reputable VCs and funders. The closest I see here are people that got Bitcoin-rich and are now learning how to be angels by naively funding their friends and dead-end startup projects that arent much better than weekend hackathon submissions. A sandbox for playing. Everything worth anything here is a subdivision of Bitcoin culture itself and Bitcoin privilege. Bitcoin is the only provider of talent and resources to Nostr. That worked great to bootstrap from nothing, but now what? Deal with this, and figure out how to be relevant to other people, or Nostr will continue to be nothing more than a perpetual hackathon sandbox subsidized by a Bitcoiner ego-cult.
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Big Bad John's avatar Big Bad John
If nostr were the answer, people like me would be building on it. Ask yourselves who the builders are that aren't choosing nostr, and why. Then ask yourselves what all the people building here have in common. Then compare these groups earnestly. I dont just mean Bitcoiners vs Bluehairsky. I mean their experience, talent, and reputation. I mean the most talented and resourceful people; people that innovate, and have deep expertise. Why aren't they leaving where they are to build here? Examples: Bitcoin Core devs, shitcoin expert devs that really do want to fix things, talented cryptographers, deeply experienced systems/p2p people, experienced entrepreneurs, reputable VCs and funders. The closest I see here are people that got Bitcoin-rich and are now learning how to be angels by naively funding their friends and dead-end startup projects that arent much better than weekend hackathon submissions. A sandbox for playing. Everything worth anything here is a subdivision of Bitcoin culture itself and Bitcoin privilege. Bitcoin is the only provider of talent and resources to Nostr. That worked great to bootstrap from nothing, but now what? Deal with this, and figure out how to be relevant to other people, or Nostr will continue to be nothing more than a perpetual hackathon sandbox subsidized by a Bitcoiner ego-cult.
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What's wrong with a little hobby coding? Hobby coding is what the Lightning Goats are all about. Here's one for-fun project we recently did in order to help our Nostr projects:
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feat: Add Strike Wallet Integration by santyr · Pull Request #3150 · lnbits/lnbits
This pull request introduces a new wallet integration for LNbits, enabling users to leverage the Strike API for Lightning Network payments. Key Fea...
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People look to justify their own actions all the time “People like me” says it all You’re free to build wherever you want John, that’s absolutely true Go for it I hope you’re not missing ways to potentially incorporate Nostr into your products as they are As for the potential of Nostr, let’s see with time what’s true I for one embrace the idea that a new generation of capital allocators are entering the fray, backing ideas they see as valuable, in a manner that makes sense to them If wrong. The time and moneys gone. If right. Well you’re point is totally disproven