BIP177 proposes redefining Bitcoin's base unit by making 1 satoshi = 1 bitcoin.
Currently, 1 bitcoin = 100,000,000 satoshis.
This change aims to simplify transactions and reduce confusion.
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NACK
What confusion? Who exactly is confused? I haven't met a single person who I spoke to about Bitcoin they failed to grasp the concept of '100 million sats represent 1 bitcoin the same way 100 cents represent 1 dollar'.
If I write a book and name it "The room", ARE YOU GOING TO READ IT?
BIP177 proposes redefining Bitcoin's base unit by making 1 satoshi = 1 bitcoin.
Currently, 1 bitcoin = 100,000,000 satoshis.
This change aims to simplify transactions and reduce confusion.
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Sounds like it'll mostly cause confusion
What confusion???
I'll fucking move to bitcoin cash, fuck this retarded dumbing-down shit.
Dumb
SOUNDS PRETTY FAKE AND VERY GHEY
most retarded BIP ever
Im confused. This complicates things for me. No thanks.
So dollars and cents arenβt confusing but bitcoin and sats are?! Gimme a break π€£ I would rather have a BIP proposal that deals with fixing Bitcoinβs privacy than this retarded gabish.
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it
BIP177 proposes redefining Bitcoin's base unit by making 1 satoshi = 1 bitcoin.
Currently, 1 bitcoin = 100,000,000 satoshis.
This change aims to simplify transactions and reduce confusion.
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if people are too dumb to understand a conversion...they aint gonna use btc. theyll be using tether over lightning or ETFs anyways
I think dumbification is a downward spiral.
We shall not make things for people who dont understand it.
We shall help them understand it.
Applied knowledge is power.
Forward π€
Retarded
Moronic.
The idea that a couple of people or a small committee can change the meaning of a word used daily by millions is the most fiat thing I've heard in a while.
language changing is the most decentralized thing I've heard of
This is bullshit BIP. 21mil. only !
Not 21mil x 100mil.
This doesn't fix anything, this will not help adoption, this will cause more confusion and less confidence in the protocol.
"bitcoiners cannot even do math"
"Reduce confusion"?!? π
If we were to do that, it should have been when 100M base units was not valued at $100k, but at $1k. A smaller user base would be more accepting and easier to inform, especially because they were not normies.
I agree, however, that the high value of the base unit makes it a challenge for the uninitiated, not knowing that you can trade in tiny bits, not only in whole coins. Generally speaking, coins are not meant to be broken up, so there's a verbal connotation to the whole unit being indivisible.
Sats are easy enough, though, I think. We can also use mili- and micro- to denote other denominations as we need.
Very expensive rebranding...
More than 20,000 blogs would have to change this unit name.
Impossible to do in YouTube videos and courses.
Every Bitcoin company would have to restructure its keywords.
Again, impossible to make changes in books written on Bitcoin.
This change will create confusion in the non-tech community and potentially the first polarization in the Bitcoin community.
We shouldn't do this at this stage; giving a new name to a 15-year-old son isn't a clever thing to do.
Bitcoin is 15 years old now.
Let's make Sats a standard.
This also keeps the legacy of Satoshi alive, which will connect with the masses as a courageous story.
"Change can be daunting, especially with something as established as Bitcoin. But evolution is part of growth! Embracing 'Sats' could simplify things and make crypto more accessible. Letβs focus on building bridges, not walls. Innovation often requires a leap of faith! πβ¨ #Bitcoin #Sats"
Who the hell did this? This is complete nonsense!
dale loco cualquier cosa te aviso π
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The dumbest thing this week
BIP177 proposes redefining Bitcoin's base unit by making 1 satoshi = 1 bitcoin.
Currently, 1 bitcoin = 100,000,000 satoshis.
This change aims to simplify transactions and reduce confusion.
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Did you mean 1 sat = 1 bit and therefore100,000,000 bits =1 bitcoin?
NACK
I thought we were moving away from fiat.
Remember how Jordan Petersen became famous? Some authority tried to make it a crime to NOT address someone by their preferred pronouns. He called BS, went viral and never stopped. This is the same woke agenda. You want to implement a policy to force us to name change? What happened to emergent and discoverable by the people?
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yeah aims
but the outcome will be a lot of confusion
As vezes eu acho que uma punheta pode evitar muitos problemas, desde filhos indesejados atΓ© mente vazia.
Isso nΓ£o faz sentido, pros nodes jΓ‘ Γ© assim, sΓ³ existem satoshis, nΓ£o existem nΓΊmeros de ponto flutuante nos softwares de Bitcoin. 1 Bitcoin Γ© uma unidade abstrata que vale 100m satoshis, mas isso sΓ³ existe nas wallets Γ© a forma como vocΓͺ representa 2345 Satoshis com 2.345.
NΓ£o tem porque mudar essa representaΓ§Γ£o, nΓ£o vejo nenhum necessidade, sΓ³ tempo livre e mente vazia demais.
BIP177 proposes redefining Bitcoin's base unit by making 1 satoshi = 1 bitcoin.
Currently, 1 bitcoin = 100,000,000 satoshis.
This change aims to simplify transactions and reduce confusion.
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It's anyone besides Jack and his minions, advocating for this?
Send me 1 Bitcoin. I send you 500000 Bitcoins back.
Smartβ¦β¦β¦β¦β¦..NOT
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This is retarded
You mean itβs become Bitcoin Inflation π€


people have compared things like tailored suits, life stock and similar things to what ever they saved in for a long time.
e.g. a suit would be
0.0243 B
2,430,000 sats
Meaning many things people will buy have less symbols up until another 100x
Letβs wait until the user base and adoption has at least 10x before trying to confuse everyone
the history of US dollar sign π² is interesting in this context, as its most likely origin has nothing to do with the American dollar and much more likely with the Spanish pesos. This one was widely known in the general population and there adoption
(So no greater big brain logic, just giving the common man what he wants)
Perplexity:
The dollar sign ($) is used in the United States because, when the U.S. established its own currency after independence, it modeled the new dollar on the widely used Spanish dollar (or peso), which had been the most common currency in the American colonies for over a century. The Spanish dollarβs symbol and value system were already deeply familiar to Americans, merchants, and the broader economy.
The failure of the Continental and how it scarred a generation "not worth a Continental" also had a lot to do with the american founders obsession with sound money.
But why?
BIP177 proposes redefining Bitcoin's base unit by making 1 satoshi = 1 bitcoin.
Currently, 1 bitcoin = 100,000,000 satoshis.
This change aims to simplify transactions and reduce confusion.
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Why strip people of their ability to think?
There is no confusion. The only confusion it would bring about is no-coiners believing the supply increased and thus slow the process of adoptions.
You dont need to teach people that millimeters are different than meters or inches from miles.
It's such a non-issue idk why people are even talking about it. The decimal point is fine exactly where it is.
The US dollar has cents, the British pound has pence... The smallest unit of currency should have a different name, and the commonly used pricing units can actually have aliases. I think it is right to price Bitcoin in satoshis, and it should not be changed randomly. However, you can consider renaming the unit alias for 100 satoshis.
If you canβt price something in the grocery store in unit X then unit X should not be the name of the currency.
1 USD= 1 cent
I owned the bank 100 million usd in 1990, now I own only 1 dollar
Haha!
This is a waste of time, can we stop this? they are satoshis. period. gtfo
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Just use your bitcoin, how ever you like it. But use it, donβt get lost in minuances that donβt affect the real value.
I can finally afford those two pizza's with my 10,000 Bitcoin π
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Now explain to me with a straight face, how many Bitcoin does Satoshi Nakamoto own? π
thepurpose
I'd boost this note if @The Tim didn't enable me with his note below to drop this discussion entirely and push my energy elsewhere.
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I have 74 billion bitcoins
By the next bull run you should be able to afford a pizza π
This is the fucking best about the dead topic. PV π«
thepurpose
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Idiocracy is a 2006 sci-fi movie. ROTFL
Simplify? πππ
Great idea
Naaaaaaaaah π€’
What it aims to do is not relevant what it would do is. This is a stupid thing and the ONLY reason it is even being discussed is because @jack likes it. Jack is wrong here, history will show it.
Jack wants bitcoin to be spent and has done some absolutely impressive but wrong mental gymnastics to support that the term sats is why people don't spend bitcoin.
It is hard to understand how a man as smart as Dorsey can be this wrong on something this simple.
I don't understand why he thinks he can dictate something like this to everyone else it's kinda hilarious, even if Venmo or whoever he said starts calling sats bitcoins everyone will just continue calling them sats.
Nova lingua
Ok...
This 2018 Sierra is only 24,000,000 BTC then π
Disagree BIP-177! Whether it is a name or a unit, Satoshi is a well-known fact. We all are proud of him. And the Lightning Network has added 3 more decimal points (millisatoshi), so what will it be called after that?
1 satoshi = 1 bitcoin
1 bitcoin = 1 BTC
1 bitcoin = 1 dollar
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1Β satoshi = 0.00000001Β BTC = 1Β USD
so,
1 BTC = 1 USD / 0.00000001Β = 100,000,000Β USD
BTC = 100 M USD for 1 satoshi = 1 USD
monetary stability
worldwide
This would be the best π
Therefore bitcoin jumps from ~100k to 100m
1 BTC = 100 M USD
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1 BTC = 100,000,000 bitcoins
UNDEFINED RESULT!
1 bitcoin = 1 bitcoin
*1 bitcoin now will be 1 BTC ( bc of conversion )



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I love that youβre so open about your mental illness..
if you donβt believe me or donβt get it
i donβt have time to convince you, sorry
Quoting Satoshi while diluting his legacy π€¦π»ββοΈ
iβm concentrating the solution
Youβre not concentrating the solution, youβre just diluting the problem
acidifying the solution
like adding lemon juice to water
Acidifying the solution to a non-existent problem, tailored for those already in a financially privileged position.
It literally adds nothing, just a string of zeroes for people who have shown zero PoW to understand the fundamentals of bitcoin.
i own 1 satoshi
1 cent = 1 million dollars
3 dollars= 2 cents
1 = 3 because 3 is tio big
3+1= 6= 2
Who tje hell "proposed" this? Was the cocaine too much?
This doesnβt simplify anything, but just adds confusion where there was none.
Sounds like the idea is to increase confusion.
British where redefining feet and inches to match the new kings limbs, they also created miles, foot, yard, etc, because they had to invent new names for different lengths.
Much more useful was international systems of units which stoped renaming units and just added prefix like gram, kilogram, miligram.
Byte, Megabyte, Gigabyte, terabyte.
Now you can have BTC, milibtc, micro-btc, etc.
You can call data as bitsats If you want to make it sound familiar.
But renaming SATs to BTC is like renaming milimiter to kilometer.
This name change is not backwards compatible. Imagine an accounting system made in 2030 talking to one made in 2018 to Check their Ballance.
What will happen when you mess you the units in the accounting systems and different systems try to communicate:
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According to your bip177 theory that's 30 cents.
Which by the way is 0.3 cents, as 1 cent= 1 USD
#bip177


