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The best thing to do is talk about it with #badsimplex we discuss this in the group chat the only place evgeny responds directly to people. If you don't want to go in & get some answers use the tag & spread it because they got no idea in there how disappointed people are. In their own little world this is a success because l3 kve whatever shit secures anonymity in payment & the nft is just to make it so you can't use this outside of Simplex but you could gift it to another person.
Imagine awh your free group just hit your 500MB limit & you don't wana purge it's okay i'll buy your next "voucher" to increase your space. The idea is that it will be more then just a chat app. With channels yup here we go the discord scheme channels each one a different functionality so in the future a group is like a free hosted webpage because channels will give you tje layouts you want for your community.
I said channels should come out first before this otherwise it wouldn't make sense but they need money now to hire people because the development team is only 4 people. Me & others have argued for external payment methods but nope they want to do this eth>voucher>buy your hosting space.
Discord & Guilded started this we are the future of web hosting community building stuff now it's become a model make a chat app or start as one. Expand to channels being different ux & boom you got your new all in one controlled hosting page go upload your satisifed you get to talk & control.
It's crazy ain't it?
I enjoyed making a chat app with a cashu wallet built-in, using your MDK for MLS chat
I assume others are working on this also? I don't expect to continue on my project, it was just a fun project to get to know the libraries, and to learn how things like push notifications work and to learn more about MLS
The "Bitcoin for Signal" demo is the only effort I'm aware of, to built bitcoin into an open source secure chat client
wow! very cool! π
yes, we're going to be adding lightning and cashu wallets to @White Noise in the near future for sure.
any chance you want to come help out on the project?
This sir, is awesome!
Yes, I'd love to help in any little way
It's hard to make promises, as I'm still working on the fiat mines π, but maybe I'll be able to contribute
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Disappointing π€¦ββοΈ. What is a good alternative?
@White Noise - it's still early but we have big plans.
They lost to Keychat anyway
and Keychat has lost to @White Noise π
Not really. So far the race is on. Despite influencers promoting white noise itβs not any better than Keychat. Maybe the opposite.
Just saw youβre the creator of white noise ππ good job. I hope both protocols will merge eventually and users benefit from not needing to use different apps at all.
SimpleX Chat
To address some incorrect criticism:
> Did you know @SimpleX Chat now has a blockchain/shitcoin built in (called Flux)?
Nope, that's not true. There is no built-in coin. Flux the company offers their servers to the app users. Not their coin.
> Did you know they've also started doing "content moderation"βblocking users, groups and 3rd party servers?
Also not true. We cannot block users, as there are no users, and we do not block 3rd party servers. We do remove addresses of groups that distribute CSAM from our servers, without any impact on users privacy.
> Yeah, so far it's only to stop CSAM distribution but we all know how that's a slippery slope. The good old "Think of the children" tactic. If there's a method to ban, block or censor, it will be used and ABUSED.
Not true. Freedom of speech without SOME restriction cannot exist - unlimited freedom always leads to abuses of power and tyranny. Study some history. Our freedom ends where the freedom of our neighbours starts, so some limits absolutely must exist to defend our freedom.
> SimpleX Chat ... not decentralized
Not true as well - there are 100s if not 1000s of community run servers. If you don't want to use ours or Flux's, use your own or anybody else's - it's all in a single network.
> not censorship-resistant.
This is correct, and this will change, as was explained in livestream.
Censorship-resistance and privacy are technically contradictory requirements, so they have to be balanced.
> I also found out they are getting funded by VCS such a Village Global
We were never hiding it, and who are it's LPs is irrelevant - they have no influence or control on SimpleX Chat.
Read this post: https://simplex.chat/blog/20240814-simplex-chat-vision-funding-v6-private-routing-new-user-experience.html
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That makes them shitcoiners. π©
Manβ¦β¦β¦not good
Itβs telling that they use Xitter for their comms.

