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โ†ฉ replying to TallBrian
Yeah, Iโ€™m aware of that and the reasons. I was even critical of it in the beginning. Remember the 13% meme? I shared a bunch of those. But you might be surprised to discover how many bitcoiners hold ETH, much of it bought in the crowdsale for pennies. Maybe if there was a larger market for multisig security they wouldnโ€™t have to look for other revenue sources, but obviously they made a decision to offer it to their customers because of demand. Heโ€™s also not the only person in the company who makes decisions. Just my nuanced and evolved thoughts. Ethereum is still a shitcoin and nobody should hold it. Thatโ€™s also my opinion.
โ†ฉ replying to Jameson Lopp
Fuck Citrea and Chainway labs and their shitcoin technologies. People should not trust Casa too.
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Fuck Citrea shitcoiners and Fuck Zerobase / ZBT. image "ZEROBASE is a decentralized cryptographic infrastructure network that enables verifiable off-chain computation using zero-knowledge proofs (ZKPs) and trusted execution environments (TEEs). It powers products like zkStaking, zkLogin, and ProofYieldโ€”bridging institutional DeFi, user privacy, and real-world asset strategies. ZEROBASE delivers programmable, compliance-aligned staking and transparent cryptographic assurance without exposing sensitive data." Does that remind you what the fucking shitcoin Citrea is doing on Bitcoin? Sounds familiar? "Zero-knowledge rollups โ€“ a technology usually associated with scaling the Ethereum blockchain โ€“ are now coming to Bitcoin." ๐Ÿคก๐Ÿคก๐Ÿคก "With Citrea, Chainway is working to help Bitcoin better accommodate decentralized finance (DeFi), NFTs and other use cases that were previously only possible on smart contract-based blockchains like Ethereum, but are now possible for Bitcoin to handle." "We're hearing things like Citrea is better than Ethereum," Chainway Labs co-founder Orkun Mahir Kฤฑlฤฑรง told CoinDesk. "It'll be better with time, because there's like $1 trillion, as of now, sitting in the Bitcoin blockchain. It is the most secure, battle-tested and decentralized blockchain. And we are bringing decentralized finance to it." ๐Ÿคก๐Ÿคก๐Ÿคก https://www.coinglass.com/news/91227 Core V30 is malware that enables Citrea shitcoin technology. Majority of Core devs are compromised.
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โ†ฉ replying to The Daniel ๐Ÿ––
Chainway labs who are behind the Citrea shitcoiners and bad actors were supporting inscriptions spam. Citrea is their project that started all this shit and Lopp the bad actor and evil shitcoiner is inverstor in Citrea. Citrea is trying to turn Bitcoin into Ethereum like shticoin.
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BitcoinIsFuture's avatar BitcoinIsFuture
Fuck Citrea and Fuck Chainway lab shitcoiners. ๐Ÿคก๐Ÿคก๐Ÿคก "With Citrea, Chainway is working to help Bitcoin better accommodate decentralized finance (DeFi), NFTs and other use cases that were previously only possible on smart contract-based blockchains like Ethereum, but are now possible for Bitcoin to handle." "We're hearing things like Citrea is better than Ethereum," Chainway Labs co-founder Orkun Mahir Kฤฑlฤฑรง told CoinDesk. "It'll be better with time, because there's like $1 trillion, as of now, sitting in the Bitcoin blockchain. It is the most secure, battle-tested and decentralized blockchain. And we are bringing decentralized finance to it." ๐Ÿคก๐Ÿคก๐Ÿคก https://www.coinglass.com/news/91227 Same technology on ZBT/ "ZEROBASE is a decentralized cryptographic infrastructure network that enables verifiable off-chain computation using zero-knowledge proofs (ZKPs) and trusted execution environments (TEEs). It powers products like zkStaking, zkLogin, and ProofYieldโ€”bridging institutional DeFi, user privacy, and real-world asset strategies. ZEROBASE delivers programmable, compliance-aligned staking and transparent cryptographic assurance without exposing sensitive data." image Core V30 is malware that enables Citrea shitcoin technology. Majority of Core devs are compromised.
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โ†ฉ replying to Jameson Lopp
The divide I see is between technologists and monetary maximalists. People who are distracted by what CAN be done, often miss what SHOULD be done. The smartest ones are the most dangerous. We have a once in a species opportunity to fix the incentive system of the most important tool humans use and you want to misuse it. To do so, you and others have been social engineering chinks in the armor (core30 as the latest example) since the code didnโ€™t allow to attack it without changes. You present as a libritarian technologist who just wants to push the boundaries of what can be done but what I see is antisocial manipulative behavior and a drive for undue power and influence. A wolf in sheepโ€™s clothing.
What about Archetype 6 Post-Coiners. People, many of whom were the early Bitcoiners, & are seeing the technology isn't keeping up with the times. We've read the whitepapers, & quotes we know the devs wanted to implemented privacy, we see the bickering of pointless core vs. knots debates, and how financial interests hold back major changes to L1. Bitcoin was a good prototype but technology grows, and innovates. I will say of all the Bitcoiners, your videos, and @BTC Sessions are probably the most compelling videos I've seen so far since you guys actually care about the protocol, technology, and freedom, while a lot of other Bitcoin influencers are singing the praises of Blackrock, Michael Saylor, and Donald Trump instead of Satoshi, Hal Finney, and the others who made Bitcoin a good technology.
Iโ€™d be the type youโ€™d describe as mid-curve. First of all, letโ€™s clear up some misunderstandings. See, I fully understand, we shouldnโ€™t trust corrupt politicians or states. They take our money and use it against us (like the genocide in Palestine). The powerful get richer while the poor get poorer. However, when you look at corrupt states, you see they use force against their own population. So yes, they might actually turn off the internet. India did that in the occupied part of Kashmir (
Al Jazeera
โ€˜Biggest offenderโ€™: India tops global list of internet shutdowns
More than half of 84 shutdowns in 2022 recorded in Kashmir as India leads Access Now list for a fifth consecutive year.
). Germany has a terrible past, and today they again support genocide. If you speak up, theyโ€™ll give you trouble. Corrupt nations donโ€™t care about their people โ€” they want to take their money and keep their populations as a kind of slave class. The point is, I find it very likely that these same corrupt states will one day understand the power of Bitcoin and raise taxes so high that buying it becomes hard. For rich people, sure, they can move to another country. But for ordinary people, who might struggle to find a job abroad, the situation could look very different. So, I wouldnโ€™t underestimate the power of corrupt politicians. Theyโ€™ll bomb babies and call it self-defense โ€” memories of a state called Israel.
## 1) The Normie - Fiat-Loser (Fiat-Mindset, Fiat-Behaviour, Fiat-Habits) - Method for Orange-Pilling: Mention that If you bought 1 dollar bitcoin for the last seven years you would now have 100k. ## 2) The Idealogue - Recognizes "all" the problems in the world and then traces them back to the false reasons. - Wrong Mindset: The problem is the "player", the "scoreboard", the "referee" -> reality: The "game" is rigged - Method for Orange-Pilling: Skip / Avoid / Ignore ## 3) The Midcurve - Asks the wrong questions and gets hung up on them - Method for Orange-Pillinng: Asking the question "Do you think the system is broken or mismanaged?" ## 4) The Skeptic - Questions everything not just the monetary system but also f.e. the real truth behind the epstein files, 9/11, etc. - Recognizes the totalitarian scheming, f.e. Digital IDs, CBDCs, social credit scores - Method for Orange-Pilling: Point them to the Bitcoin Whitepaper; Explain them the fundamentels and technicals: PoW, Incentives, cryptography, etc. ## 5) The 90%ers - Questions everything but also believes in something - People who are already succesful and souvereing in their thinking and acting - Method for Orange-Pilling: Your deep conviction about Bitcoin will convince them. > Good Luck orange-pilling the different archetypes! View quoted note โ†’