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↩ replying to tanel
We need a one click install relay. It does not need to be fancy, but it needs to work in 90% of the environments it is tried. With well thought out requirements and preferably in platform repositories. It needs to be uniform across platforms and have a channel that allows support at a non technical level. The goal is to get as many socially minded people to install it as possible, yet still keep it open and not seen as aligned with any political or other division. Ideally it would be seen as a platform where ideas and discussions can cross those boundaries. Maybe it is a "boomer dream" but I miss those early days of twitter and Facebook when civil discussions and shared ideas were the norm.
Open platforms are like forests, closed like gardens. It takes much more time for a forest to grow naturally, but once it does, it subsumes every garden, because gardens need constant upkeep. Unless their permaculture gardens, but then Nostr is more like a permaculture garden than the normie garden.
↩ replying to ODELL
Why bother when it performs lime Amethyst gimped by Tor. What the Hell are you guys doing with that money.
Jordan S's avatar Jordan S
You can just load Nostr over Tor now. Amethyst is actually comparable to its peers in Note Rendering time now with Tor enabled πŸ‘€. This is comparing to Primal which pre-renders notes on a caching server. So the fact that they're competing is wild. Primal should be the obvious clear winner here in rendering but Amethyst made rendering so much better now.
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Yes, but when I'm onboarding people, I hope they stay. And I notice they all find it more secure if they're on a central platform, which of course isn't the case. But just like your own bank, you now manage your N-SEC within the protocol. And you determine the algorithm, everything you want to see and don't want to see. So it takes a lot of work to understand what's being built. And unfortunately, people choose the easy way out and blindly follow the people who shout, "Don't build, don't want to learn, and don't want to change." And I don't see any specific help either. Some developers are seriously on their own. And "Don't trust verify" is becoming an old saying. People are simply no longer willing to do the work or waste their energy. And it's becoming increasingly difficult to recruit and select good people. 🫑🧑 Just my 2 Sats ( BπŸ’š)
What about all the other protocol ecosystems trying to do the same thing? Is it winner takes all? And then the rest just like die off? In which case if nostr is not the winner then nostr just dies off. Or maybe now is a good time for the ecosystems to work together, acknowledge that each ecosystem has its pros and cons, and see if there is any pooling of talent can be arranged.
↩ replying to Garbage nsec
Yes and no. I do think it's "winner take all" with respect to centralized platforms, because X will never interoperate with Facebook, same with TikTok, etc. The exception is Mastodon and that's where I think we need to do much more work, because that system _can_, in principle interoperate with Nostr. I still think Nostr wins in the long term, but in the short term it would really benefit us to have 2-way communication with the ~500k DAUs on Mastodon... Unfortunately, there seems to be very little attention and developer effort right now in bridges like Mostr and Momostr....
Yes. Nostr and bitcoin only is the way. The fiat system with their walled gardens and censorship will drive people mad and forster further real bitcoin and nostr adoption over time. Adopting bitcoin and nostr now will give you a head start. Its still early but the development is mindblowingly fast. While fiat is burning, bitcoin is churning.. Tick tock next block. Tick tock next note. Love it View quoted note β†’
Similar here, I just think replacing all of this and LinkedIn and GitHub is achievable by well-designed communities with easy deployment and a credible exit. Most of the real value is trapped in fiat marketplaces and platforms of collaboration (especially around software). Unstoppable reputation and authentic connections in interoperable high-trust and high-signal private groups is the new internet in my book.
We've replaced most services already, which is amazing. I think the two biggest targets now is Telegram and YouTube. Telegram is probably the easiest, but it's a massive task. Telegram has great performance, but their practices and how they never help anyone who get their accounts taken over, makes them deserve to be replaced. YouTube is the biggest challenge, requires some innovation on architecture, distribution, etc.
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