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I honestly wonder how much of the internet has been scrubbed, and for how long has the capacity to consistently scrub it has been? How much dialogue is real vs laundered misdirection? This is a pretty dark existential hole, to which Nostr has a pretty great answer and shows just how important this really is.

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They don't even need to scrub it. Just removing things from search results is enough to control the info. I can't remember when it was, some time after the Covid lockdowns, but google deindexed results for 10,000 different websites in one year, mostly forums and blogs. They've removed more since then, it's hard to find information outside of Wikipedia, Reddit, and tiktok/YouTube these days. Duck duck go has been compromised, I don't even know what search engine to use anymore.
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Some people I know dedicated their lives for a decade or more to documenting the truth about the century-old Leo Frank sex murder case, and set up a couple of Web sites to host that documentation. Their sites were very useful to scholars and researchers, and rightly shot to the top of Google's results on that topic. But then the organized Jewish groups decided they didn't like that, and Google (a Jewish owned company) de-ranked them purposely, and now they are not even visible on the first pages of results on Google, totally replaced by ADL-approved sites.
Yesterday I was thinking of a forum setup that I would call Dunbar’s forum” where you could create invite only private forums each that had their own topic or theme but a maximum of 150 active users. Take the concept of Dunbar’s number and apply it to our online communities. Create small niche groups where people know each other and have a reputation. The side effect is the benefit of being a bot or paid influencer is small as your reach is limited. Being private in nature allows for moderation to be determined by the individual group. The internet is build on connections and does not need to be one big bucket of internet. Not everyone needs to see everything or be connected to everyone. It is the β€œweb” that is important. The fact that information can travel between these nodes not that it is available everywhere at once all of the time.
Here we can reason and criticize each other without killing each other in a censorship resistant way. Isn't that the wet dream of the natural law? Mentioning the laws of our nature just through hearing the arguments of each other and reaching our own conclusions? In that sense, doesn't Nostr make states completely "obsolete"? If you know the laws through seeing the memes that flow through nostr, why would you need a state to say what is good and what is bad?
I guess we should go outside and interact with reality instead of trusting the internet 🀝
Erik Cason 's avatar Erik Cason
I honestly wonder how much of the internet has been scrubbed, and for how long has the capacity to consistently scrub it has been? How much dialogue is real vs laundered misdirection? This is a pretty dark existential hole, to which Nostr has a pretty great answer and shows just how important this really is.
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With a couple of decades of bookmarks and downloads, It’s pretty damning already. In the not too distant future I hope to create an index of content and call out the β€œ404s.” Eventually I’ll throw Ye’s (Kanye West) β€œDrink Champs” interviews one, two and three up. β€œI’ve got receipts” as Bill Ackman said, but I REALLY do!