This will likely be the last year of damus. Will try my best to make this thing sustainable, but nostr clients donβt make money and I once funding runs dry its over as I can only burn saving for so long. Glad I was able to help play a small part in this regardless of what happens. Going to give it my all next year to try to keep the dream alive. Thanks for coming along for the ride βοΈ
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Happy to pay a subscription. I used to pay 17 bucks a month for shitflix until I canned it. It was crap. Damus and the protocol as a whole gives me way more value than shitflix ever did.
Do the math and put the number out there. What have you got to lose.
I am sure you will be pleasantly surprised.
You guys are gonna make it π§‘π§‘πππ€π«π«π«
Netflix is such a waste of money man , totally agree , it is like rumaging through a bargain bin full of DVD's at a dollar store for 17 dollars a month .
Utter dogshit
Thank you bevo! ππ
It has been really fun to follow Damus since it's inception and I hope to see you build on it for a long time into the future. A lot can happen in a year JB, let's hope for the best! π€
Thank you for damus ππ½πππ«π«π«π«π« thereβs still hope though ππ½π₯Ή
I believe every software developer can live on the Value4Value model. You must remember to ask, and ask regularly.
Ask and People Will Give
@jb55 invented zaps. His main oversight in zaps was leaving the app developers out of the value flow.
Zap splits came later and the ux is not great.
I definitely love that part of No Agenda. Itβs something to think about for sure.
Is Damus Purple / premium subscription still in the works?
Yup will be launching that soon, be we would need a lot of subscribers
When you say this year do you mean 2023 or 2024? π€
2024
Okay so we will still have time. You donβt see any hope with subscription model?
Running the numbers with current user numbers its a bit rough unless you crank up the price by a lot
Pay up you freeloaders!
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#Amethyst me encantarΓa apoyarte cuΓ‘les son los planes 2024? No quisiera una sorpresa de que tambiΓ©n te vayas @Vitor Pamplona
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Intentar la donaciΓ³n por empresas de minerΓa serΓa una loca idea π‘?
Lo digo por quΓ© si los clientes Nostr triunfan las transacciones de Bitcoin escalarian y por consecuencia las empresas mineras se verΓan beneficiadas,
#Nostr #Hispano #Venezuela #EspaΓ±a #Argentina #ElSalvador
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Intentar la donaciΓ³n por empresas de minerΓa serΓa una loca idea π‘?
Lo digo por quΓ© si los clientes Nostr triunfan las transacciones de Bitcoin escalarian y por consecuencia las empresas mineras se verΓan beneficiadas,
#Nostr #Hispano #Venezuela #EspaΓ±a #Argentina #ElSalvador
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Intentar la donaciΓ³n por empresas de minerΓa serΓa una loca idea π‘?
Lo digo por quΓ© si los clientes Nostr triunfan las transacciones de Bitcoin escalarian y por consecuencia las empresas mineras se verΓan beneficiadas,
#Nostr #Hispano #Venezuela #EspaΓ±a #Argentina #ElSalvador
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Intentar la donaciΓ³n por empresas de minerΓa serΓa una loca idea π‘?
Lo digo por quΓ© si los clientes Nostr triunfan las transacciones de Bitcoin escalarian y por consecuencia las empresas mineras se verΓan beneficiadas,
#Nostr #Hispano #Venezuela #EspaΓ±a #Argentina #ElSalvador
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Charge for the relay, people will pay
I think it's useful to talk about the skills and tools that are needed.
While up until now the skills that you (probably?) needed were programming, memory optimization, UX, user requests and the tools were libraries, ChatGPT, Algorithms, ObjC⦠the next steps will require you to use different skills & tools.
The needed skills are more towards leadership, planning&prioritization, raising funds, marketting and your tools will be people, connections, processes, coordination/partnerships with other businesses.
And note here that learning skills requires effort, but also note that it essentially requires the same approach like learning a new programming language. Watch youtube videos, get a book, try&fail couple times, practiceβ¦
Now just to brainstorm couple ideas for what could be done:
- create a list of all potental ideas that could bring in money and sort those by "result/cost" (= bang-for-buck)
- ask for donations once a month (post a note, do a popup in the appβ¦)
- gather funds in any way possible (create project on geyser.fund, reach out to opensats, hrf, jackβ¦), make it clear to your friends that you need money for Damus.
- create a complementary product targetted at businesses (not end customer) and sell them what they need. Handle the Nostr infra for them, etc.
- get a part time job next to Damus
- sign up for incubator, for new app competitions, etc.
- you may be able to get a loan
- freeze work on Damus for couple years until there's much bigger userbase
- if you would want to go to the VC/Angel route, you can likely get couple bitcoiner angel investors (I think you could get $200k@5M pre-money fairly reasonably). With others we would be happy to support you this way even if we are unlikely see the money back. That said it's also fair to say no.
I understand this 110%, have been thinking the same for @Relayable.org since as the price of #bitcoin went up the donations dried up with the exception of a few awesome nostriches. π€π«
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Inject ads into the feed. Don't over complicate it.
I don't sympathise.
Bitcoin Maxis poo poo shitcoiners but they have something we don't: *they know what people want*. So it pays to clip our noses, dive in the sewer and backspat some shitcoiner types (explore-exploit).
As to devs complaining FOSS doesn't pay i don't agree. i've seen one dev complain about their app which allowed users 10 torrents going at the same time on a free version. Why didn't they just make the free version 3 max, a pro-paid 10 and allow anyone, giving detailed, secure and working instructions, to build the pro without paying if they wanted to so keep the FOSS ethos?
On #nostr why am i always context switching? Every time i context switch to upload a longer video to be hosted so i can link it here etc is a lost income for the dev.
** #contextswitching is lost money.**
i've also spoken abou t #ti pQ without success.
But supposedly "nostr doesn't pay".
#tipQ
This has been solved
People will pay if they get value.
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Boi we got u this ship ain't stoppin'!
Not stopping on my time chain watch. We got u @jb55
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What is the best way to contribute. I like Damus a lot Primal doesnβt work on my phone at all not sure why posted about numerous. Damus just works!!!!
Damus reliability is still in its infancy. Soon it will work offline and in very low bandwidth situations. Reliably and efficiency will always be the priority. The new client architecture Iβve been working on is pretty mind blowing, canβt wait to demo it.
Damus is awesome! I enjoy the you all continue to innovate as well as keep it operating smoothly. How do we support the team? How can we get involved to make the run way longer
You blue balling bastard!
I want it just as bad, itβs coming together slowly.
I see what you did there. πΈ
I wrote to you about a donation but you ignored me.
Why not get funding from bitcoin-only VC? They are a few good one out there that truly understand
Let us know how we can help keep it alive. Paid version/features?
Weβve been working on that all last month. We have a few features that I think are pretty useful (high quality translations that donβt need configuration). So it wouldnβt be just a donation subscription which is just ugh to me.
Yeah I hear that. Well whatever it is, youβve got one customer here when itβs ready π«‘
Why should a nostr client need centralized hardware ? I thought the idea was a nostr client runs in client machine ( laptop or smartphone) ...
web interface should be optional .. only if the developer is supported by web-bros ..
I appreciate your work in making the internet opensource and decentralised.
@jb55 earned my hard respect when I learned what he has built to make this community what it is.
He deserves the utmost accolades and awards, and probably a few #bitcoin for all his work.
This year will see some radical evolutions in the #nostrvrse, and I hope the OG, @Damus and @jb55 get credit where credit is due.
Thanks for all the fish! (And #zaps and #npubs, and more!! )
LFG ππΌ
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