Are we getting rid of Signal?
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Yes, for the cool people at least
Sure, if I want to drop from 11 contacts to 0. It was hard enough convincing them to use Signal with me.
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Same, if I asked them to switch again they would tell me to fuck off and then they would revert to WhatsApp. I try to tell people that they really want to be on as many varied chat apps as possible. If they aren't on 3 or 4 then they need to install more :)
Implement it as a backup. That's what I did for my meetup to use signal over tg. Now more comms happen on signal.
Start talking about specific topics only on nostr group chat or making people buy shit from you there. Once you're confident it's stable, start shit talking signal and within a year the people that matter will actually be migrated.
But definitely need to make sure it's stable.
T'would be nice.
if so, might as well call this client Noise
Is it replaceable?
Lord I hope so
No. Signal has built in gif search, and we all know Will will never implement such a feature.
signal is centralized trash, i hope we are getting rid of it
Signal is the best first step for normies to get a taste of privacy.
I use it a lot.
But I also use SimpleX, Session, Matrix, and XMPP.
Hope so... how secure is this?
Better than Signal. Just pick a good Inbox DM relay.
I'm running haven and currently use that for inbox, is that good for this?
Otherwise my public relay is nostr-rs-relay.
I don't think it deletes NIP17 DMs. But it is your server, you can just go there and delete whatever you want :)
thanks, I'll give it a test and see if it does tomorrow.
what makes NIP-17 more secure than signal?
You control the server if you want. Nothing goes through third-party servers.
Yeah that's important for sure, I was wondering moreso about the encryption algorithm being used?
I'll need to read up in this NIP-17 when I have more time!
Now when You say "Better than Signal"... Infrastructure and centralization aside, are You saying this is actually more secure than Signal? I mean Signal the mobile app, not the desktop version.
in theory yes if it's sent to only inbox relays you control, but not sure how common that will be. in practice probably not.
We have to make it common. Otherwise there is no point in Nostr.
I donβt see how you can make this common. People will centralize around large inbox relays. This always happens.
Unless the inbox relay is the phone/desktop node itself over tor or something, and clients opportunistically keep retrying the send, but that would be unreliable.
Make deploying a DM inbox server as easy as creating a new spreadsheet on Google.
I completely agree with your point of view, but popularizing it among ordinary people who are not professionals requires simple and easy-to-understand language.
Look at Keet - it sends messages peer to peer using people in your group chat as relays rather than using relays operated by strangers. Itβs mostly open source and *seems* trustworthy for the non-open source parts. 

Keet - The Peer to Peer Chat App
Keet is a peer-to-peer chat application that allows users to communicate directly with each other. 100% end-to-end encrypted. Never on a server.
Would say yes, but even this week people dm'ing me didn't recieve my reply or vice versa.
Would say yes but apparently there's no privacy in nostr dms
It is due time to jump.
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Never. Why should we?
its centralized and can fail/will eventually go away
Than SimpleX or Session
i prefer nostr
Assume all digital transmissions encrypted or otherwise are fully compromised.


