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Same, if I asked them to switch again they would tell me to fuck off and then they would revert to WhatsApp. I try to tell people that they really want to be on as many varied chat apps as possible. If they aren't on 3 or 4 then they need to install more :)

Implement it as a backup. That's what I did for my meetup to use signal over tg. Now more comms happen on signal. Start talking about specific topics only on nostr group chat or making people buy shit from you there. Once you're confident it's stable, start shit talking signal and within a year the people that matter will actually be migrated. But definitely need to make sure it's stable.

PurpleNoise

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😂😂😂 true that

Better than Signal. Just pick a good Inbox DM relay.

I'm running haven and currently use that for inbox, is that good for this? Otherwise my public relay is nostr-rs-relay.

I don't think it deletes NIP17 DMs. But it is your server, you can just go there and delete whatever you want :)

thanks, I'll give it a test and see if it does tomorrow. what makes NIP-17 more secure than signal?

You control the server if you want. Nothing goes through third-party servers.

Yeah that's important for sure, I was wondering moreso about the encryption algorithm being used? I'll need to read up in this NIP-17 when I have more time!

Now when You say "Better than Signal"... Infrastructure and centralization aside, are You saying this is actually more secure than Signal? I mean Signal the mobile app, not the desktop version.

in theory yes if it's sent to only inbox relays you control, but not sure how common that will be. in practice probably not.

We have to make it common. Otherwise there is no point in Nostr.

I don’t see how you can make this common. People will centralize around large inbox relays. This always happens. Unless the inbox relay is the phone/desktop node itself over tor or something, and clients opportunistically keep retrying the send, but that would be unreliable.

Make deploying a DM inbox server as easy as creating a new spreadsheet on Google.

I completely agree with your point of view, but popularizing it among ordinary people who are not professionals requires simple and easy-to-understand language.

"Mostly"?

Would say yes but apparently there's no privacy in nostr dms

its centralized and can fail/will eventually go away

Than SimpleX or Session

i prefer nostr