there is a large moneyary investment in this space in centralized nostr (primal) and centralized bitcoin (cashu)
Criticizing any of these? Good luck getting a grant or invited to that next prestigious event.
nostr was more fun when it wasnβt being subverted by money and influence peddling.
Unfortunately they canβt buy me or shut me up. I couldnβt give more of a shit about money or influence.
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I didn't realize you had a beef with Cashu.
I have been openly critical about that project and its design choices and been treated like a red-headed piece of shit by a lot of people on here, particularly developers.
I have nothing against Primal, but I'm not interested in using their walled garden setup, so it is what it is.
i had no issues with him, until he started attacking me just because I wasn't 100% on board with cashu
i guess the "bitcoin for signal" and "bitcoin for imessage" irked me a lot as well. affinity scamming is such a bad look.
Yeah, he tends to do this.
And just to be honest, it's a red flag to me.
probably just defensive because he has to deal with the centralization criticism all the time. i can see how that would be annoying after awhile.
I do too, and I feel for him, but it's going to happen with that project. When a bunch of people are purists.
anything I can help with or clarify related to cashu? it's an open source project, we welcome pull requests.
Nope.
Tee hee. 

It isn't just cashu
the entire bitcoin space is paralyzed because everyone is terrified that if they do anything else
except for the reference-implementation HTLC-based blocksize-war approved thing
the big money won't follow them
and the big money is hostile anyway
we could have so much π’
At this point it's not just about money. Devs are scared of getting arrested. This is another reason the privacy focused Monero community is pulling ahead in the dev race
Regardless of who youβre calling out or frustrated by
The fact that you can have your opinion, free of fear (be that de-platforming or removal of funding), is the absolute key
About the only time I believe diversity is actually powerful as a metric is when it comes to opinions
Say what you want. Think what you want. Go for it
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Whatβs the difference between Primal and Damus?
Good question...
Quite a bit but the main gripe people have is that Primal can be very X/twitter like. To put it simply.
Need to create a pros/cons list of these two clients, and any other client that has thrown their hat in the ring.
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Those 'prestigious events' are useless signaling events.
Just continue building good products!
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Capture thrives when itβs fuzzy. Make it measurable: publish an optβout friction score. Count chokepoints from keys to broadcast, selfβhost paths, and perβfeature off switches. We use this lens at Masters of The Lair. Would a public scorecard keep things honest?
Appreciate you saying this out loud.
I get the Primal criticism.
Cashu I'm less clear about. It's a protocol, not a specific product. Anyone can operate a mint, and indeed, as far as I can see, many do:
Yes, it is more centralized than Lightning, which is more centralized than L1 Bitcoin. But it has its use cases.
Mint Auditor
use cashu if you like cashu, i really donβt care. I personally donβt have any use for it and would rather focus on improving lightning tech