How we do coloring time on a Bitcoin standard.
Rob Warren
Rob Warren
robwarren@primal.net
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Author, The Bitcoin Miner's Almanac || @bitcoinpark_
Does EVERY hash from a Bitcoin miner matter?
Pick the ‘wrong’ side on this debate and you’ll find yourself triggering computer scientists and cypherpunks, or enraging plebs and an army of lottery miners.
Let's figure it out together.
But first, a review.
I wrote an article in March of this year disagreeing with the way Saylor and Lowery characterize bitcoin mining as a 'battery' or 'encrypted energy'.
Here's the crux of that argument, bitcoin mining is neither because of the STATISTICAL nature of mining (you are guessing nonces before you hash a random output--it is non-deterministic).
You can never create a directly causal MODEL that shows how energy or electricity translates to hashes and block wins.
To illustrate this, I made the point that you are only, technically, contributing to the network IF you find a block.
Finding blocks allows for issuance and settlement of bitcoin, and impacts network difficulty.
In the code, this is CalculateGetNextWorkRequired.
Technically, bitcoin was designed to explicitly never know (or need to know) how many people are hashing, how big they are, how much energy is being used, what kind of hardware they are using...
This is a feature, not a bug.
(IMO it's THE feature that Satoshi uses to solve the hard problem of monetary inflation... but that's for another day)
In this technical sense, it is true that HASHES THAT DON'T FIND BLOCKS DON'T MATTER TO BITCOIN.
Why?
Hashes that don't find blocks DO NOT receive a reward of new bitcoin, settle transactions, or impact the chain or network difficulty.
They don't matter (technically).
In true Bitcoin fashion, this made many angry.
Here is my visual interpretation of why:
It comes down to the word 'matter'.
If I say that hashes that do not find blocks do not technically matter, I am not saying:
- lottery mining is stupid
- don't mine
- only big miners matter
- just quit while you're ahead
But a lot of people read my article that way!
This is where I can be even clearer.
'To matter' in a technical sense means to interact with the chain, BUT there is another way 'to matter' that is entirely legitimate.
This is the disagreement @penny_ether clarifies.
It is worthwhile to mine (even if you don't find a block), for the simple reason that you cannot win a game you are not playing. We know this because even TRYING to win the game (by hashing) has a value associated with it that pools will pay you for--hashprice.
OF COURSE all hashes matter in this sense.
@Public_Pool_BTC makes the true assertion, that because mining is a Poisson process, all hashes are probabilistically relevant to the network. 100% true, but not directly relevant to my technical point (highly relevant to a different interpretation of 'matters')
Otherwise there would not be a PRICE associated with them.
Remember, a pool pays you for hashes, NOT just winning hashes.
It's the expected value you get paid for.
I love disagreements like this.
They give us the opportunity to hash out (no pun intended) what we specifically mean when discussing bitcoin. That's what is so special about Bitcoin, everyone is open to learn and interpret it.
So, in sum, "Do all hashes matter?"
Both YES and NO.
But, you have to specify what 'matter' means.
But first, a review.
I wrote an article in March of this year disagreeing with the way Saylor and Lowery characterize bitcoin mining as a 'battery' or 'encrypted energy'.
Here's the crux of that argument, bitcoin mining is neither because of the STATISTICAL nature of mining (you are guessing nonces before you hash a random output--it is non-deterministic).
You can never create a directly causal MODEL that shows how energy or electricity translates to hashes and block wins.
To illustrate this, I made the point that you are only, technically, contributing to the network IF you find a block.
Finding blocks allows for issuance and settlement of bitcoin, and impacts network difficulty.
In the code, this is CalculateGetNextWorkRequired.
Technically, bitcoin was designed to explicitly never know (or need to know) how many people are hashing, how big they are, how much energy is being used, what kind of hardware they are using...
This is a feature, not a bug.
(IMO it's THE feature that Satoshi uses to solve the hard problem of monetary inflation... but that's for another day)
In this technical sense, it is true that HASHES THAT DON'T FIND BLOCKS DON'T MATTER TO BITCOIN.
Why?
Hashes that don't find blocks DO NOT receive a reward of new bitcoin, settle transactions, or impact the chain or network difficulty.
They don't matter (technically).
In true Bitcoin fashion, this made many angry.
Here is my visual interpretation of why:
It comes down to the word 'matter'.
If I say that hashes that do not find blocks do not technically matter, I am not saying:
- lottery mining is stupid
- don't mine
- only big miners matter
- just quit while you're ahead
But a lot of people read my article that way!
This is where I can be even clearer.
'To matter' in a technical sense means to interact with the chain, BUT there is another way 'to matter' that is entirely legitimate.
This is the disagreement @penny_ether clarifies.
It is worthwhile to mine (even if you don't find a block), for the simple reason that you cannot win a game you are not playing. We know this because even TRYING to win the game (by hashing) has a value associated with it that pools will pay you for--hashprice.
OF COURSE all hashes matter in this sense.
@Public_Pool_BTC makes the true assertion, that because mining is a Poisson process, all hashes are probabilistically relevant to the network. 100% true, but not directly relevant to my technical point (highly relevant to a different interpretation of 'matters')
Otherwise there would not be a PRICE associated with them.
Remember, a pool pays you for hashes, NOT just winning hashes.
It's the expected value you get paid for.
I love disagreements like this.
They give us the opportunity to hash out (no pun intended) what we specifically mean when discussing bitcoin. That's what is so special about Bitcoin, everyone is open to learn and interpret it.
So, in sum, "Do all hashes matter?"
Both YES and NO.
But, you have to specify what 'matter' means.