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I don't think we are talking about the same thing. I am not talking about government rules. I am talking about individuals in their own towns being forced BY the government to accept forced association of people who don't keep the local values. "More importantly, how do you plan to enforce this?" This is Goverment, top down thinking. My town already enforces this. We don't listen to rules imposed by the state. We make people who don't assimilate feel unwanted and they take the hint.
We could show them with kindness that the way we do things here is why it was nice enough for them to want to come here in the first place. Or we could just treat everyone like shit for being a little different. Making them feel unwanted is a surefire way to make sure they stay isolated doing things the old way rather than assimilating. I never said I wanted any rules for or against at any level. My position on immigration is that if we stopped economically exploiting the global south they wouldn't feel the need to leave in mass and come here.
It is well understood that the American freedom ethos is why things are good here. But, it is also well known that freedom is easy to exploit. Kindness is not immediately turning everyone away implicitly. That kindness was exploited, that's kind of my point. Also it's not "treating them like shit for being different." It's reacting to evil, laziness, exploitation, and violence with appropriate repercussions. I am obviously not talking about people who follow the rules but are different. As far as exploiting the global south, their governments do a good enough job themselves. Just like how Americans have no say on how our government functions, nor do they. No need to reflexively self-flagellate as if you made the deal with Exxon.
I meant we as in the grand we of america in that case. Their governments suck, but a significant cause is the US government meddling in their politics. Sure I didn't support or do any of it and a lot of it happened before I was born. I don't fall for being guilted over shit like that like some do. My point is that the US government benefits coming and going. They pocket the gains from their meddling, then when people try to escape the exploitation they get Americans to hand over more rights to keep them out.