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only commies would complain. lol

I checked the profile, found out I don't want to block it, neither follow. as always

Paying someone to follow me is dumb. The profiles who do this are most likely trying to make their follower count high in order to make others think they are important. The problem is follower counts on Nostr is not important because 1, the followers list takes way to long to load, 2, many of the followers are bots. I wouldn't do it either but I don't really care if others do it. Until they add some sort of defense like charging 3 Satoshi in order to follow someone then follower and following counts won't matter.

I'm fine with it. You can spend your sats however you see fit.

Why would anyone care if I zap people for following me or get zapped for following someone. 🤔 Honetly I normally check out anyone who zaps my content if I am not already following them, or if I havnt seen any of their stuff for a while. Which normally ends up with a follow and zapping back if they have put any effort at all having some content posted.

The thing is that zaps4follows means I can follow them, get zaps and then unfollow them cause I just wanted their money. The "scam" can go both ways. But the zaps only go one way!

My morning, basically. It's a good discussion to have, thanks for posting Derek. I think it's kind of scammy, obviously.

Better to follow someone because you have something in common with them rather than following someone because they gave you some sats, in my opinion.

It’s scummy but I’ll allow it. 😌

Yeah. Feels sketch, for my own behavior, but if we are to remain truly free, that is part of freedom. We are free to STFU, scroll on, deliver our wisdom, or mute. Vigorous debate is the lifeblood of an emerging technology/protocol like this. I appreciated (when I joined #nostr) getting helpful hints that there were better ways of interacting. I felt it was kind of npubs to care enough to give me keys to the cool kid kingdom, despite me losing them in a boating accident. 🛶

Quality over quantity I always remind myself. At the same time, realizing that number-go-up is here with us on Nostr. Everyone's competing to be seen. It's about changing the mentality.

I've never seen a zap4follow or repost4follow or follow4follow worth following. But it's not unimaginable. I agree nostr is difficult to be seen on, clients have shoddy recommended users, the whole meta is geared towards bitcoin slop and this is probably inevitable.

Derek On this social network everyone must be free to do what they want! Period! If not removed the purpose of freedom and decentralization. What decentralization is it if I do something that someone doesn't like and this goes to tell 100 other lies about me so that I don't follow anymore? Think about it... censorship is called

Zaps for follows are SHIT , i have seen many new users land on Nostr and figure their own space. Two examples … bitpop art and Pegah, both selling stuff. Bitpop has been spammy at times but awesome to see the art , (love you dude) has been consistent and 1000 x behind the cause .. i love him for that.. pagah , persistent and driven (love you for that )has sold rugs only due to Nostr

It’s corny af but you have a point. It’s hard to be seen for many people online. I understand why people do it here.

Just zap gratuitously with no expectation for anything in return, make some thoughtful comments, be nice (or be a smartass whatever) and the follows will come. It’s lame, but people are gonna do zap4follow in an open protocol… it won’t keep them here though. The connections they make will be vapid.

It’s another form of begging. I end up muting beggars. Very little value offered, nothing interesting, just begging. Seems the trend is to get an npub, act cool for a bit, then dial up the begging. Then it’s all beg all the time. Maybe it’s not intentional, maybe it just clicks how the zaps work after a short time. I think most have said on here many times in many ways that follows don’t matter, as in the amount of follows. Some don’t get this. They build up a following then switch up to begging or influencing… whatever they were not at the start. There’s still a “get followers” mentality left over from traditional platforms. Amount of followers being low either means you’re new or you just suck 🤷‍♀️ I get why people want lots of followers. But it’s cool to have them organically from building community rather than having them just from being “nostr elite” 😉

In the end, the protocol doesn’t care, and that’s the point. Let people experiment, and let the community decide what sticks.

In the end, the protocol doesn’t care, and that’s the point. Let people experiment, and let the community decide what sticks. View quoted note →

It’s an open protocol. What are we even supposed to do? If someone doesn’t like something, they can hide the words, hide hashtags, unfollow people, mute them. I also don’t like the idea of mob policing. Here, people have full control over their feed, & that’s the only feed they should be worried about, not about someone else’s nostr feed & what they should see. & this hashtag feels a bit spammy, but it’s not even harmful. We also need to chill out, I think.

I'm not much for zap for follows... It "doesn't scale" as is said often these days. Just post cool stuff that you dig, be an authentic person and see what happens... But it's Nostr...if you wanna give sats away, go for it...

People can do what they want but I don’t think it’s effective in the long run if their goal is to actually gain followers that will engage with them, and it likely draws people zap farmers who will follow them with multiple npubs to get zapped. Completely worthless to build a following made up of “fake” accounts. A better “zap 4 follows” strategy would be for them to just go out on nostr and start zapping posts with some catchy/message attached. That way they’re not only more likely to zap real people, but also building goodwill with the community they’re trying to enter.

It’s kind like sucking dick for crack cocaine in a dark alley. You both got what you wanted but now neither can look the other one in the eye with any respect.

This quote popped in my head when I read this A little harsh but definitely some truth to it

It’s boring and I don’t want to see boring content

People are free to do whatever but it's always strikes me a beg a friend. Those kind of relationships don't end well. I don't take the free sats, I prefer to deal with people in a more human way.

Just shows me how incredibly EARLY we are to Nostr and that most people that want to Z4F just don’t understand what decentralized social network means. This will change as new NIPs add features and advertising. People will look back and laugh in 16 years.

It didn't work for me. :) View quoted note →