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The assholes at Vultr decided to ban me yesterday. They asked for explanations of what I used my server for and when I said "nostr" they just told me to get the fuck out. They gave me 12 hours to access my data and migrate all my dozens of relays and services. All while treating me like a fucking criminal. I searched for an AI to help me migrate all my stuff and found this Warp tool that is pretty damn good. It came up with a single one linger to deploy my strfry instances, do strfry db migration, configure HTTP server, everything! I can even tell it "hey, setup blossom on blossom.f7z.io and only allow my pubkey to upload stuff" Damn fucking wild. A lifetime ago, I used to be a sysops at a hosting company. Migrating this much stuff would have taken me about a week of fighting old package versions, database migrations, updating configurations. Now I literally gave root access to an LLM to help me out and it literally did it extremely well. The setup it accomplished is already better than my very ad-hoc deployment I had in my previous server. Warp terminal app (with ref-link, just like @ hodlbod taught me) πŸ‘‡ View quoted note β†’

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Remember this when the next person tries to persuade you that EU alternatives are better.
PABLOF7z's avatar PABLOF7z
The assholes at Vultr decided to ban me yesterday. They asked for explanations of what I used my server for and when I said "nostr" they just told me to get the fuck out. They gave me 12 hours to access my data and migrate all my dozens of relays and services. All while treating me like a fucking criminal. I searched for an AI to help me migrate all my stuff and found this Warp tool that is pretty damn good. It came up with a single one linger to deploy my strfry instances, do strfry db migration, configure HTTP server, everything! I can even tell it "hey, setup blossom on blossom.f7z.io and only allow my pubkey to upload stuff" Damn fucking wild. A lifetime ago, I used to be a sysops at a hosting company. Migrating this much stuff would have taken me about a week of fighting old package versions, database migrations, updating configurations. Now I literally gave root access to an LLM to help me out and it literally did it extremely well. The setup it accomplished is already better than my very ad-hoc deployment I had in my previous server. Warp terminal app (with ref-link, just like @ hodlbod taught me) πŸ‘‡ View quoted note β†’
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Where you running a free nostr relay? or free nostr image host? If you were. Then it's probably because the freeloaders use free Nostr relays to upload questionable things that might be illegal depending on which country the server is in. When I ran my server hosting company. We have no choice but to quickly kick clients off our server due to illegal activities. Most of the time it's because the client allowed anyone to upload anything to their servers and they didn't moderate their server. Internet users would then send complaints to the ISP and the ISP would threaten to ban us. The ISP doesn't mess around. This is why you should never allow users without payment to upload things to your server. The free relays are full of trash. I can see this happening and it will give Nostr a bad name. Most administrators just setup the relay and never moderate.
When I was first getting into "self"-hosting I tried Vultr. I just wanted a simple email server. I bought the cheapest VPS available and tried to open the ports. Well guess what? They wanted to get me KYC-ed. TLDR: #fuckvultr
PABLOF7z's avatar PABLOF7z
The assholes at Vultr decided to ban me yesterday. They asked for explanations of what I used my server for and when I said "nostr" they just told me to get the fuck out. They gave me 12 hours to access my data and migrate all my dozens of relays and services. All while treating me like a fucking criminal. I searched for an AI to help me migrate all my stuff and found this Warp tool that is pretty damn good. It came up with a single one linger to deploy my strfry instances, do strfry db migration, configure HTTP server, everything! I can even tell it "hey, setup blossom on blossom.f7z.io and only allow my pubkey to upload stuff" Damn fucking wild. A lifetime ago, I used to be a sysops at a hosting company. Migrating this much stuff would have taken me about a week of fighting old package versions, database migrations, updating configurations. Now I literally gave root access to an LLM to help me out and it literally did it extremely well. The setup it accomplished is already better than my very ad-hoc deployment I had in my previous server. Warp terminal app (with ref-link, just like @ hodlbod taught me) πŸ‘‡ View quoted note β†’
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I think there is something fishy going on. They mention hosting a blossom server so it may be that they have received and ignored abuse reports relating to copyrighted material or CSAM. It also feels unusual they would say β€œnostr is not allowed”, considering most people or hosts do not know what Nostr is. I want more details about the exchange. If they were asked to take down the content. As is, screenshots (ofc redacted personal info)
Is there no redress that can be claimed against Vultr? I think most lay persons would question the need (and legality) for Vultr to treat you with such obvious disdain. If no redress is possible, then something needs to be done to ensure such mistreatments can be challenged by some kind of appeal to a neutral Third Party. In the U.K. we call such things ... an "Ombudsman". DEFINITION: βž€ a person who investigates, reports on, and helps settle complaints; ➁ an individual usually affiliated with an organization or business who serves as an advocate for patients, consumers, employees, etc.
how sad . KYC = know your customer is really hasstle sometimes that they turn it to censor if the server didn't comply with their TOS . but hey we are talking about Nostr . i just don't understand . Warp teminal is not a migration tools , rather it is a interface that you run your command line migratio tools like rsync . scp , mysqldump , right ? to migrate your data faster from vultr , man can use rsync , or use tool site like digital ocean , or compress archieve , yes? where did you put your server now ?