Iβve seen the full spectrum of P2P transactions and retail must have instant settlement. Onchain transactions can happen daily, or weekly, but theyβre not going to be ideal for most vendors outside substantial size transactions.
Micropayments will not happen onchain, not on BTC.
Didn't ask
Yeah, I really don't understand how people don't get this. With a 10m block time, Bitcoin was never intended for typical retail... BY DESIGN!
It is P2P, not retail. Certainly some retail applications could easily use it... like buying a car. But, most couldn't. No one is going to stand in the grocery store at the register, waiting 10m to a half hour or more, for their grocery purchase to clear. It doesn't matter if the fee were only 1 Satoshi.
This is the reason every attempt so far has failed. BCash. BSV. Any other on-chain shitcoin. No measurable retail adoption.
I don't think the example was a grocery store.
Did you mean to change the subject to how you're against Bitcoin grocery stores (which you correctly assume I support), or are you just going along with a the thoughtlessly-harass-whoeverlovesDigit bandwagon?
Typical whoever stalks Digit response:
βDonβt debate me on the topic, everyone is harassing me!β
My Bluesky ban was based on accusations of me singlehandedly doing harassment on my own, with one Bluesky account
I think a horde of people coordinating to gang up on me with retarded gaslighting and shit counts
If it doesn't, then surely one person arguing doesn't either, so have you made similar complains to Bluesky on my behalf for fairness' sake, or are you banned from Bluesky now too?
That was where we first met, remember, and I remember you siding with the gangstalkers there too
A layer two solution that handles all the micro payments throughout the day, with an on-chain settlement at the end of business (daily/weekly) is very feasible and one node can handle all the micropayments of a massive shopping mall
Or maybeβ¦

I don't see how this answers what I said
That seems to be a trend with your replies
Please try again
Yeah, and that is really how most businesses operated up until things went digital. Someone went to a bank, and got a bunch of change and put in cash drawers and their vault. Then, settled up with the bank and their accounts. Repeated each day.
That's not good
Except now they donβt need the bank.
In China, they transact via QR code and personal wallets with no need for a bank. Nobody has cash or credit cards, even old people and poor people transact with their phone - everyone has one.
The technical infrastructure is already there, but bitcoin will make the process decentralizedβ¦ so you canβt be debanked.
Because they can use a proof of work blockchain instead of lightning or a checking account
For ultimate settlement. Not small payments. This is not a hard concept to understand.
I use proof of work blockchains instead of lightning or a checking account regardless of the size of the payment
This is not a hard concept to understand
Good for you, buddy. This is why youβre special.
No, I'm special because I've met Digit
It still doesn't seem like you've given a proper response to this btw - might as well mute me if you can't handle responding properly to everything in a discussion
π΅πΈ whoever loves Digit
My Bluesky ban was based on accusations of me singlehandedly doing harassment on my own, with one Bluesky account
I think a horde of people coordinating to gang up on me with retarded gaslighting and shit counts
If it doesn't, then surely one person arguing doesn't either, so have you made similar complains to Bluesky on my behalf for fairness' sake, or are you banned from Bluesky now too?
That was where we first met, remember, and I remember you siding with the gangstalkers there too
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Yeah, it has flaws, but worked for hundreds (thousands?) of years. We can now do much better with digital and eliminate some of the flaws.
The problem, I think, with saying now that we're digital, we'll just bypass the above model, is that there are tradeoffs. If we just do everything direct, then we run into that chain-bloat situation.
Going to a somewhat parallel model to the 'cash drawer' (like Lightning), solves the chain-bloat problem, but has to accept a few tradeoffs.
Soft money never worked usefully, it only worked for harming and killing