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We wouldn’t need ICE if there was no welfare state. Perfect example of a retarded binary system pitting one side against the other when the solution for both sides actually is the same solution. Impossible to have this discussion. Even on Nostr.

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ICE is just a part of the overall global surveillance plan that they’re eager to roll out as soon as possible. It’s already on the way in Europe and Australia and soon globally via CBDCs and their privatized counterparts. AI will enable complete fiscal control of all nations that buy into it. And those that don’t will see some democracy brought to their doorstep. ICE was going to happen regardless as it was always the agenda. Everything else is a distraction.
The welfare state is presocialism and we all know what happens after socialism. Why do you think the Obama administration pushed to remove the 2nd Amendment so hard? They attempted to defund The People's security (cops). They overthrew The People's government in a coup with election fraud. They used the illegals to commit civil unrest and as the next voter base. They payed for the illegals housing, healthcare, daycare, and education with The People's tax money. They hate us more than most currently comprehend.